nah, the camo marker can declare idle + cc attack / dodge to get away from the non camo guy (who will aro with hold + his own cc attack / dodge), and the non camo guy can declare idle + dodge (assuming the camo model doesn't reveal itself). so not 100% playable like the engage up a wall situation from n3, just very very weird situation. But agreed, The answer just needs a resolution, regardless of which one is picked.
My first question to all of this is how is the Shang Ji able to declare Dodge if it doesn't have LoF to the Zero? And if the former does have LoF then surely the Zero can't re-camo cos there's a model looking at it?
maybe not everyone able to enter a camo or for that case impersonation state has stealth, but as it was a nested skill in n3 I would assume everyone does.
that's true. very interesting. the wording for stealth in N3 was the same as now as far as I can see. So this situation has not come up in years of N3 (when the dodge still was engage)? I guess one has to asume that the dodging model can reach the zero and so he won't enter marker state and does nothing. and is murdered in c.f. in the next order ;)
The big difference is that you couldn't do it in N3. In N3, you could only change facing if you did not have LoF (required for recamo). Now you can dodge with movement and reach B2B without LoF.
The only precedent we have for resolving this is in the sequencing of dodge moves themselves. That establishes that the active model goes first. If I had to provide an on-the-spot TO ruling, I would use that to say that all active player effects are evaluated in any order, followed by all reactive player effects in any order. Edit: I had initially stated the order backwards. Overall premise is the same, but details have been corrected.
