[SOLVED] Cadmus and open information

You are welcome to do that, in the worst case scenario you are disclosing something you are not supposed to disclose.

But if you read the Seed-Embryo rules, you,ll find that it make the unit a marker (seed-embryo state is a marker state).

And every marker state, as pointed out in the yellow box, make private the info of what it hides.

I agree that it could be clearer (like spelled out also in the STATE page), but it is all there to read.

 

Please show me the rule that says every marker state hides information and I'll happily retract everything I said.

 

Re-read what you quoted.
"as pointed out in the yellow box".

 

That's a yellow box directly quoted from the Seed-Embryo rule!

 

It doesn’t say that Seeds hide stuff. At best it implies it.

 

Yeah. That's what I said, and what you quoted.

 

Right, which is how we get back to me saying I'm not really convinced.

Anyway, I'll be done with this thread now; I'm not going to turn this into a hill I'm choosing to die on. I think the OP got the answer they were looking for.

 

Thats correct.

So a deployed Seed that has no Camouflage or TO should be described as Public Information.

 

That yellow box refears to camo markers

 

And just to make sure I am not crazy, The Cadmus would not be landing in camo state.

 

the Cadmus dont have the Special Skill Camouflage.

 

Wiki pages updated to move the yellow box into the Seed-Embryo and Camouflage and Hiding (CH) section.

 

Hoping to an answer to the subsequent question of the Cadmus being hackable while in the Cadmus-Seed "marker/state" (since the hacking device, if carried, is active enough to need to be revealed)

 

Pretty sure that it was already answered (in ijw's post about Chest Mines) - Cadmus-Seed and Cadmus-Developed carry different equipment, so Seed is not a Hacker and cannot be Hacked (or use hacks), same as it can't shoot Developed form's BS or attack with its knife in CC.

 

It's probably really important to remember the difference between Hatch and Autohatch, when discussing equipment and what the trooper is doing:

• Regarding Autohatch, the cancellation of Seed-Embryo state is applied to the whole declared Order. So, if a trooper in Seed-Embryo state declares an Autohatch + Move Order, her Developed Form Troop Profile will be applied for the whole Order.
• Regarding Hatch, cancellation of the Seed-Embryo state is applied in the Conclusion of the Order, applying the Developed Form Troop Profile in subsequent Orders.

BS Attack (Chest Mines)+Autohatch is going to create one of the rare cases where a BS Attack becomes invalid a step or two after it was declared.

Disclaimer: Berserk vs. a seed is weird, the seed uses different ARM values in the active and reactive turns.

 

Autohatch must be declared first, so this can't happen.

 

Huh?

 

Can I get a summary on the final Anwser here...?
I drop a Cadmus and it's 2 Decoy Seeds
This is Strictly referring to the Cadmus
1. While it's in Seed Embryo State what is open information?
2. Does Any part of being in a Seed Embryo State allow for surprise Attack?

 

Smh...
So now you have to specify what seed it is too... Wtf? If that's true Fuck taking Cadmus