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Reinventing JSA: Some Thoughts

Discussion in 'Japanese Secessionist Army' started by barakiel, Jul 19, 2019.

  1. barakiel

    barakiel Echo Bravo Master Sergeant

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    I'm a player that has pretty much zero interesting/incentive to use Domaru or Tanko, and Tac Awareness would definitely encourage me to give them another try. I think a lot of their problems are still deeper than that, but this would be a good addition for them.
     
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  2. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    I really do like that idea, getting TacWare off the big guns and onto the supporting troops (IMO, the best Zuyong is the Combi+Tinbot Haris).

    But what does this idea do to extreme skew lists like my 7 Samurai?

    Japanese Secessionist Army
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    [​IMG]9 [​IMG]1 [​IMG]4
    OYAMA Lieutenant Chain Rifle, E/M Grenades / Breaker Pistol, AP CCW, EXP CCW. (0 | 28)
    DOMARU Spitfire / Pistol, E/M CCW, Shock CC Weapon. (2 | 39)
    TANKŌ Missile Launcher / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (1.5 | 32)
    TANKŌ Flammenspeer, Contender / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 23)
    TANKŌ Blitzen, Submachine Gun / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 23)
    O-YOROI AP HMG + Heavy Flamethrower, CrazyKoalas / EXP CCW. (2 | 86)
    [​IMG] O-YOROI PILOT Contender / Pistol, CCW. ()
    YOJIMBO Contender, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades, CrazyKoalas (2) / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 21)
    KEISOTSU Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 17)
    TOKUSETSU EISEI Doctor (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    TOKUSETSU KOHEI Engineer Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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    Oyama and two Tanko go up 4pts each, putting the entire list at 312, so I'd probably have to drop the Doc entirely.

    Japanese Secessionist Army
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    [​IMG]9 8 [​IMG]1 [​IMG]4
    OYAMA Lieutenant Chain Rifle, E/M Grenades / Breaker Pistol, AP CCW, EXP CCW. (0 | 28 32)
    DOMARU Spitfire / Pistol, E/M CCW, Shock CC Weapon. (2 | 39)
    TANKŌ Missile Launcher / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (1.5 | 32)
    TANKŌ Flammenspeer, Contender / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 23 27)
    TANKŌ Blitzen, Submachine Gun / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 23 27)
    O-YOROI AP HMG + Heavy Flamethrower, CrazyKoalas / EXP CCW. (2 | 86)
    [​IMG] O-YOROI PILOT Contender / Pistol, CCW. ()
    YOJIMBO Contender, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades, CrazyKoalas (2) / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 21)
    KEISOTSU Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 17)
    TOKUSETSU EISEI Doctor (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    TOKUSETSU KOHEI Engineer Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)

    6 SWC | 300 298 Points

    But that also bumps the entire list up 12 orders.

    I dunno, would probably require a lot more work to unsnarl with the loss of a specialist...


    Also, if this change was applied to Shikami, that would make them really scary in good/dense terrain.
     
  3. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Technically speaking I wouldn't personally put TacAware on Tanko because they aren't the high-tech mobility suits that Yu Jing produces and that Pan-O corporations are trying to ape :) Also, the Flammenspeer and Blitzens would disqualify Tanko due to my other criterias of not giving it to long range guns, though TacAware could be used to make, for example, the Wu Ming Panzerfaust have a meaning I suppose.
    so you can stick a Chaiyi in there for a 9 Regular Pool
     
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  4. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    I think I liked the idea better with the Tanko having TacWare, but that's me.
     
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  5. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Mostly I'm just inventing fluff reasons to incentivize HI factions to use their HI while not providing the same incentives for non-HI factions, and there is some thing to be said about Tanko being a downgrade over the old Haramaki suits that JSA can no longer produce.
     
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  6. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    Fair point!

    It's just that to me TacWare is training/skill, not tech.
     
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