IMO Vanilla Yu-jing is the most competitive way to play Yu-jing at the moment. Monks, guilangs, tiger soldiers and the daofei should be enough to back this statement, but the ability to mix and match the best our sectorials have to offer is also a very strong selling point, like playing a mowang powered by a daoying AND a kuang-shi battery.
Again, remember to take it with some pinches of salt, since differing play styles blah blah meta differences and personal tastes etc. are a thing. There should be enough laying around here for that.
Hi there, back to the forums after a hiatus: What would you say is the best way to break a defensive fireteam when playing Vanilla? If the ARO piece doesn't have MSV2, you obviously smoke that bitch and spray it with Rui Shi/Hsien love... But what if they do? I'm thinking Kamau MSR or Haidao MSR. The Kamau specially, since it also has Mimetism to boot. Do you drop a Liu Xing on them? Do you bring Nimbus?
Personally, I'd either: A: Get a Su-Jian/Zhencha/Hulang(?)/Daofei under the 16'' of the guy and shoot him in his bad range bands. B: Screw it and go just slug it out with a Hsien or MMS2 Rui Shi. C: Suicide HFT Lu Duans. OR what I'd most likely do: D: Go full caveman: Me see Kamau. Me look at Kamau. Me smash Kamau in gunfight with HI. ( So just opting for ''I have a good BS stat and a good gun, some dice in my hand and the thirst for blood in my heart. Lets just roll.'' )
You also need Nimbus. Lunah uses Marksmaship LX in order to achieve some seriously high odds. Stack on Nimbus' MODs on top of that and you're gold. Against most targets her Mimetism will also help and Limited Camo allows you to set up for the first, most vital, shot.
With the caveat of only using him once since the change, I really like the Pheasant MSR. With Marksmanship LX, MSV1, he can be pretty good. No cover, no camo, with DA ammo.
Wow, the odds are really good. Against a linked Kamau, you have a 60% chance of wounding vs a 20% chance of getting hit yourself (using MLX and Nimbus). I think I'm gonna give it a go! Lunah looks better against troops without visual modifiers (but those are rare in my meta).
Against a Kamau you need to survive to get into position, and a Pheasant isn't great without MMSLX, meaning that you either need to counter-deploy using reserve model when you go first or you need to use a CT and a sacrificial model - so bring a MadTraps-armed model because them 'splodey bots make for great sacrificial models.
I see your point. Taking into account the need of Nimbus for all this to work, Zhanying seems like a great choice: you get both Nimbus ammo and MadTraps to move-Oh please, ARO against my little bot-move into position. I get to deploy cool looking models as well, kinda urging to try it lol
I personally prefer to take Zhanying as either Hackers of Sensor-bearing MadTraps carriers. SSL2 hackers can do wonders sometimes.
The other option is bring Pheasant+Lunah instead of the Nimbus and give your opponent the choice, Dodge or die vs coordinated MMLX.
Things in my vanilla lists that dealt with Kamau since I play against Varuna every tournament and that piece is a boogeyman, especially for Yu Jing: 1) Rui Shi grinding through it with dice and being repaired since he has the best odds and needs to fail 3 saves at once to die (unfortunately depends on the table) 2) SuJian running in sniper 0s 3) Guilang utilising MSV1 to get through mimetism and crawling into snipers 0 or mine-placement ranges 4) Libertos chaincolt while hoping they fail the PH roll 5) Desperation Lunah MMX shot of 1 die on 18 (Viral goes through Shock Immunity which is nice) Hsien is generally bad against fireteams but he may engage it on better odds than other units for once. If sniper does not cover something, just concentrate on those areas and hunt the order pool or Helots if possible.
Nimbus+Hsien got pretty nice odds for killing Kamau Sniper in my experience. Yeah its order extensive, but a Kamau? Totally worth it. You're destroying their right arm.
