RAI question about moving through friendly models

MindwormGames · Apr 5, 2019

Here it is:

MindwormGames said: ↑

Sorry, IJW, I've been reading this thread and I just want to get clarity on something you mentioned.

Does this mean that you can vault a friendly model? The reason I ask is twofold, because if you can vault a friendly model:

1: A S2 model can vault a S3 or S4 model, so your dudes can butt-slide over your remotes.

2: A S2 model could vault another S2 model to get an elevated firing position, because as per the FAQ, Troops are considered to be moving "up and down" the obstacle, even though it does not cost MOV. I don't know when this would be particularly useful, but I imagine there could certainly be situations in which it would be, and it might seem like 'shenanigans'.

So I just want to make sure I understand what you are saying.

Edit to add non-sequitur:

It is pretty common in wargames for models to 'ignore' friendly models when moving, and so I think it feels 'natural' for lots of people to play this way. Infinity is a lot more explicit about tracking a model's XYZ position on the table at all times than many other systems, and not without good reason in the context of the rules.

Hence interesting questions like this come up.
Click to expand...

Hecaton · Apr 5, 2019

@MindwormGames Can you quote IJW's post that this is referencing?

MindwormGames · Apr 5, 2019

And here's what IJW said:

ijw said: ↑

'Obstacle' is not an Infinity-specific term, it's just the normal usage of the word.

So it's anything that's in the way, unless the rules say otherwise. The rules give three exceptions:

Allies of equal of lower Silhouette Attribute.

Enemy troopers (because contact stops movement).

Camo/TO Camo markers (because you're not allowed to enter base contact).

Anything remaining is going to be an obstacle and can be traversed by 'vaulting' if it's lower than the height of the trooper's Silhouette. So it's not going to matter if that obstacle is scenery, friendly equipment, enemy equipment etc, just that it's not one of those three exceptions.
Click to expand...

I mean... based on that... my Interventor can totally Vault over my Tsyklon.

Robock · Apr 5, 2019

MindwormGames said: ↑

And here's what IJW said:

I mean... based on that... my Interventor can totally Vault over my Tsyklon.
Click to expand...

thank you. that solve the issue. (at least for me. but i admit this is not a CB FAQ, but only an IJW quote)

Hecaton · Apr 7, 2019

MindwormGames said: ↑

And here's what IJW said:

I mean... based on that... my Interventor can totally Vault over my Tsyklon.
Click to expand...

I guess. I never took "obstacle" to include troopers.

MindwormGames · Apr 8, 2019

Hecaton said: ↑

I guess. I never took "obstacle" to include troopers.
Click to expand...

Neither did I. I'm just pointing out what the man said. He never confirmed if "Allies of greater Silhouette Attribute" is included in "Anything remaining [not on that list]."

There's no contextual reason to think IJW meant something different.

Log in or Sign up

RAI question about moving through friendly models

MindwormGames Well-Known Member

Hecaton EI Anger Translator

MindwormGames Well-Known Member

Robock Well-Known Member

Hecaton EI Anger Translator

MindwormGames Well-Known Member

About Us

Quick Navigation