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Saito Army Glitch?

Discussion in 'Japanese Secessionist Army' started by ambisinister, Mar 27, 2019.

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  1. ambisinister

    ambisinister Broken Zoetrope

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    So I noticed we can no longer take Saito as a specialist. Do we think that’s a glitch or an intended nerf? He still has his specialist profile in Druze.
     
  2. xagroth

    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    In theory it was exclusive to the Druze as Specialist.
     
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  3. ambisinister

    ambisinister Broken Zoetrope

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    Oh interesting. Does that mean we’ve had him as an unintended bonus profile since Uprising?
     
  4. Janzerker

    Janzerker Well-Known Member

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    They finally realized (and could ascertain with gathered ITS data) it was a bad idea to allow the specialist operative option in JSA as it automatically became auto-include in all lists and made normal ninjas obsolete.
     
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  5. Teslarod

    Teslarod when in doubt, Yeet

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    upload_2019-3-27_16-2-46.png

    He is still in the Profile PDF, which technically trumps everything else. Seems likely to be some army copy paste error from adding Dashat.
     
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  6. Nuada Airgetlam

    Nuada Airgetlam Nazis sod off ///

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    Since when anything trumps Army? You're saying if CB updates a profile stats / cost in Army you would still play the profile that's in your book?

    Not saying Saito is or is not a mistake. Just that nothing trumps Army as it's updated on the fly and the most recent combination of lists / profiles / stats / costs of the units.
     
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  7. Teslarod

    Teslarod when in doubt, Yeet

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    Most recent Profile PDF trumps all, that was established several times. Last time I remember was when it wasn't clear if CSUs could DUO because NCA didn't have it on the Fireteam list.

    Certainly not talking about the physical books. Army is known for having bugs that need a couple weeks or months to get rid off. Doesn't help that the PDFs had their fair share of typos etc as well, but it technically has the last word.
     
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  8. Nuada Airgetlam

    Nuada Airgetlam Nazis sod off ///

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    Oh, OK, didn't realize they release PDF sets of profiles. That could work as a proof of intent if Army is bugged, true.
     
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  9. meikyoushisui

    meikyoushisui Competitor for Most Ignored User

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    The most up to date profiles PDF is always the last word for anything.
     
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    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    Or not. Army has the correct Maggie profiles they fucked up the PDF ones and gave it the wrong equipment.
     
  11. Nuada Airgetlam

    Nuada Airgetlam Nazis sod off ///

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    Yeah, just today @ijw stated that Army was right and PDF wrong in one of the discrepancy cases. It's not as clear cut.
     
  12. meikyoushisui

    meikyoushisui Competitor for Most Ignored User

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    It was in army before and it has never changed in the PDF, this case is very clear cut .
     
  13. Mcgreag

    Mcgreag Well-Known Member

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    From the Army Bugs thread:
     
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  14. psychoticstorm

    psychoticstorm Aleph's rogue child
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    I will give it another look.
     
  15. Splod

    Splod Well-Known Member

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    Per v4.2 of the Profiles PDF.
    Seems pretty clear to me?
     

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  16. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Just to confuse things Saito actually appears twice in the PDF, once in the JSA section with both specialist and non-specialist options with no restriction, and again in the generic mercs section with the note screenshotted in your post
     
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  17. Splod

    Splod Well-Known Member

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    So he does. Well that's mighty confusing.

    This is the Druze profiles in Ikari all over :joy:
     
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    It would be a pretty piss poor move to bait people with the pre-order of the new Saito mini and then switch him out of JSA (see what I did there with bait and switch ;)
     
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  20. Shatidox

    Shatidox Well-Known Member

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    I seriously hope this is a mistake, I always felt bad paying for Saito just for the smoke he just felt like a worse Shinobu that I was forced to downgrade to if I lacked the points and I always ended up regretting it later, but with the specialist upgrade I started loving the unit, he had his own unique place in lists as an upgraded ninja.
     
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