What happens when a trooper declares a ZoC ARO such as Change Facing but during the Resolution phase it is found that the trooper was not actually in ZoC? What if the trooper that triggered the ARO used his seconds short move to come in line of sight, but still stayed outside of ZoC, does the ARO trooper get a new retroactive LoF ARO declaration?
The consensus in previous threads is that they'd Idle, due to not fulfilling the Requirements of the Skill.
Hey, you guys could publish a Warcor FAQ saying exactly that to infuriate Corvus Belli into clarifying it themselves, and then we'd actually know for sure. Just saying.
Allright, what about a reverse situation where the enemy IS actually in the ZoC, but the player controlling the ARO troop thinks it's not so does not declare an ARO. The ARO triggering troop comes into LoF with the second short skill so the ARO troop declares BS Attack. When measuring, they notice the enemy was actually in ZoC after the first short skill, so is the BS Attack changed into Idle then? I would assume yes.
This is a reminder that the ZoC measuring bit (relevant for the Change Facing ARO) is actually in the official FAQ: Q: In the reactive turn, when can you measure the Zone of Control? A: Following the steps of the Order Expenditure Sequence: you declare a ZoC ARO, and in the step of resolution, is when the players take measurements. So, is troop is in the ZoC, resolve his ARO, but if not, the ARO is lost.unless the debate is about whether there's a function difference between "the ARO is lost" and "you just performed Idle to do nothing". Finding out that you had a ZoC ARO that you didn't declare and thus your later ARO was invalid should have the same result.
That's not the issue Mahtamori is talking about, it's whether a nearby Mine gets set off if you declare a ZoC ARO that turns out not to be valid. If it becomes an Idle then the Mine still goes off, if the ARO is actually cancelled then the Mine is still there.
I'm suddenly reminded of the discussion thread where someone said that they'd declare Change Facing for a hidden deployment model to get it on the board, because: The FAQ allows you to declare the ARO without any standard for it being anywhere near the ZoC All you need to do is declare the ARO to get out of hidden deployment I present that as my reason for why an out-of-range Change Facing ARO shouldn't have any game effects--setting off mines, revealing models, whatever. If the ARO is invalid, nothing at all should happen because you declared it. The information leakage is unavoidable until pre-measuring is allowed, but otherwise.
To be clear, you are advocating for the HD trooper to go back into HD if they are out of ZoC upon measuring, yes?
Essentially, yes, because they were never legally able to leave hidden deployment in the first place.
We do the same locally. Doesn't make much sense to start allowing illegal ARO declarations to happen.
