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Wu ming link + Su jian possible?

Discussion in 'Yu Jing' started by adamljung, Mar 20, 2018.

  1. adamljung

    adamljung Active Member

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    Hey guys :3

    So with all the turbulence going around with our yu jing lately I decided it was time to start with the ISS - since they're unaffected by all this :)
    Ever since I started yu jing I've always been in love with the wu ming models, so a link team of those are neccessary. IF possible I'd like the su jian as well - although I'm unsure if it's viable?
    From what I've gathered people pretty much always take the Ninja KHD / Sophotect, both of which are hard to fit when I try to make lists.. Here's my first draft so far:

    [​IMG] Imperial Service
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10 [​IMG]8
    [​IMG] CELESTIAL GUARD (Kuang Shi Control Device) Combi Rifle + Light Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 13)
    [​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] SÙ-JIÀN Spitfire, Light Flamethrower, Panzerfaust / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (2 | 59)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]7
    [​IMG] WÚ MÍNG HMG / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 39)
    [​IMG] WÚ MÍNG Boarding Shotgun + 1 TinBot B (Deflector L2) / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 33)
    [​IMG] WÚ MÍNG (Fireteam: Duo) Combi Rifle + E/Mitter, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 32)
    [​IMG] WÚ MÍNG Panzerfaust, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 29)
    [​IMG] ZHÀNYING Hacker (Hacking Device) Breaker Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 32)
    [​IMG] CELESTIAL GUARD Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    [​IMG] PANGGULING (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)

    6 SWC | 298 Points

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    Things that worry me:
    * Nothing really good to swap to the Su Jian group, would he die early on.
    * Pretty obvious LT for people that know the faction
    * Very limited specialists

    Models I own / can easily put in (can buy more as well though)
    Ninja KHD, Hsien multi + hmg versions, both kanren versions.

    Any input is highly appreciated :)
     
  2. meikyoushisui

    meikyoushisui Competitor for Most Ignored User

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    The group of Kuang Shi + Su Jian lends itself a lot more to the Su Jian duo, not only for survivability but also for range bands. Not having anything else in that group is fine -- if your Wu Ming link dies, just command token a Kuang Shi link together and throw burst two chain rifles at everything.

    You also have very little to stop an enemy in the reactive turn. The Wu Ming link has a single Panzerfaust, and the Su Jian also just has a Panzerfaust for ARO weapons. I would consider adding a Rocket Launcher to the Wu Ming link to have at least one long range ARO for the first turn.

    No engineer or doctor is also a big problem, IMO. The Sophotect is expensive but it's really really good.
     
  3. KestrelM1

    KestrelM1 Well-Known Member

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    Totally viable, though it may depend on the mission you're trying to prepare for. In missions where button pushing is minimal, I've had the following work very well for me:


    [​IMG] Imperial Service
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    [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] SÙ-JIÀN Spitfire, Light Flamethrower, Panzerfaust / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (2 | 59)
    [​IMG] WÚ MÍNG Heavy Rocket Launcher, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 33)
    [​IMG] WÚ MÍNG Heavy Rocket Launcher, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 33)
    [​IMG] WÚ MÍNG (Fireteam: Duo) Combi Rifle + E/Mitter, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 32)
    [​IMG] WÚ MÍNG (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 31)
    [​IMG] ZHÀNYING (Forward Observer) Breaker Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 25)
    [​IMG] SOPHOTECT Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 31)
    [​IMG] YUDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] YUDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] CHAĪYÌ Yaókòng Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] KǍNRÈN Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Chain-colt / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Knife. (0 | 29)
    [​IMG] CELESTIAL GUARD Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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    You can swap the Kanren for a Ninja KHD at your preference, I like the Kanren because it provides a lot of midfield presence for minimal investment. You lean a lot on the Wu Ming HRLs for defense, but I've found them up to the task in most cases. Linked Heavy Rocket Launchers and the Su-Jian provide the offensive punch. Try it out and see how it works for you.
     
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  4. krossaks

    krossaks Well-Known Member

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    Yeah it is viable but i see it more with a 10 order list, with the Su Jian as a first round rambo or a 3rd round back up
     
  5. adamljung

    adamljung Active Member

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    Thanks for your replies, maybe I'll keep the list / variants of it to limited insertion only :) I'll see if I can get a test game with that list in soon.
     
  6. Shingen

    Shingen Well-Known Member

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    I like excercises in list buiding. I gues as long as you don’t need to many specialists, due to the scenario (and play against hacker light opponent), you might want to try something like this (I know I do):


    [​IMG] Imperial Service

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    [​IMG]10 [​IMG]2

    [​IMG] WÚ MÍNG HMG / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 39)

    [​IMG] WÚ MÍNG MULTI Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 39)

    [​IMG] WÚ MÍNG Heavy Rocket Launcher, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 33)

    [​IMG] WÚ MÍNG (Fireteam: Duo) Chain Rifle, Submachine Gun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)

    [​IMG] ZHÀNYING (Forward Observer) Breaker Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 25)

    [​IMG] SÙ-JIÀN Spitfire, Light Flamethrower, Panzerfaust / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (2 | 59)

    [​IMG] HSIEN Lieutenant MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, AP CCW. (+1 | 57)

    [​IMG] CELESTIAL GUARD (Kuang Shi Control Device) Combi Rifle + Light Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 13)

    [​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)

    [​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)


    6.5 SWC | 300 Points


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    One may always change zhanying to another WuMing duo with chain rifle.
     
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