Hi, I am new here and please forgive if this question is silly or already answered. But in the moment I only posses the free pdf and still have to acquire the books. So what exactly belongs to a Military Order, especially to the Teutonic Knights? They are extremely appealing to me as German! 1. There a only 5 Order (and their insignia appear in Military Order insignia), not more? Or could there exists some more? 2. The Black Friars are not a Military Order, but still independent of them? 3. The knights are the heavy infantry of the different orders? 3. The Crusader Brethren are the orders medium infantry? 4.The Order Sergeants form the light infantry? 5. And Seraph are light or heavy cavalry of the orders? 6. The officer korps order the orders are from the Father Knights and Magister Knights? 7. Could I field any Military Order character (personality) in a Teutonic SecArmy, even if they belong to a different order? 8. Brother Konstantinos seems to me as a Order Sergeant. And I thought the Indigo unit/troopers are from the mundane (not-religious) troops. So could there even exist an Indigo Teutonic Knight?
There are 5 "main" orders in Infinity Universe. There are some smaller orders which usually operate under bigger wings of other Orders (for example Order of Mercy is specialise in hostage rescue operation and technicly could be named a subsection of Hospitaller Order, Order of Saint Lazarus is another one). Teutonic Order has for example Order of Dobrzyń (which is hilariously named after polish knightly order) as "subsection", Knights of Dobrzyń are responsible for guarding main Teutonic HQ, strategic locations etc. Well Black Friars are Dominican Order. Dominicans were technicly not a "military" order (they didn't have additional vows). It's more up to their real world history, they have often served as Inquisitors or judges due to their common high education. Yes, Order Sergeants are "squires"/ auxiliary forces used by every order, you can for example all paint them belonging to Teutonic or Hospitallers (although not exactly to KotHS as it makes little sense fluff wise due to KotHS being really "high end" Order - technicly it's ok but not exactly common) Yes, they are described as "auxilary" forces of particular Order (thus you could say every order have their own Crusaders). Yes, Order Sergeant are Light Infrantry. Take a look especially at "Specialist" and Thermo Optical Camouflage (TO) ones. Seraphs are big stompy robots, controlled by members of the Order, it is used by every Order. Well Fluff is bit unclear in this point. Father Knights are actual ordained priests (in contrary to a fact that laity can be members of Knightly Order). It's bit unclear if they are "directly" in Orders structure or they are outside officers assigned to particular mission. Similar goes for a Magister Knights (though they are laity, and not officers). Magister are "poor" knights, and as far as I understand they server in every order (if we follow "real world" similarities - knights would come from noble houses, while Magister knights would come from lower houses/peasentry). It's not wh40k ;P In MO sectorial army you can field every character with every type. There is one limitation though. You can take up to 4 knights from your "main" order, and then mix up to 2 from different orders. Order Knights are: Knight of the Holy Sepulrche Teutonic Knights Santiago Knights Montesa Knights Knights of Saint John (Hospitallers) Indigo operatives are chosen from all available troops, so I think technicly (though not rules wise) there could be a a Teutonic Knight Indigo Operator. Konstantions backstory is that he firstly joined Order (KotHS) in order to earn ressurection of his GF which he accidently killed. Then due to his exploits he was given offer to work/fight as Indigo Operator.
Wow! Thanks, that helps a lot! But now I have a new question: If I field a Teutonic MO SecArmy, I could posses 6 knights (4 Teutonic and 2 from the other orders). Would Jean D'Arc, a Father Knight or a Magister Knight count against these 6 knight limit? Or could I field some of them in addition to this 6 knight limit?
As I read the army list, they do not count. Check the official "profiles" document available here: https://infinitythegame.com/resources/downloads
It's not "Teutonic Sectorial Army", its "Military Orders Sectorial Army". No Joan, Father Knight, Magister do not count towards those limits, only direct members (units which are named) of aftermentioned Orders.
Cool! I think I had found my starting army: a Teutonic MO SecArmy! Maybe even some Fusiliers, but not in standard blue or indigo! In Black with red trims and golden details! And Indigo troopers would wear a skull with crossed bones!
Well I dont want to extinguish your enthusiasm but me warned that Teutonic knights ... well ... they are not exactly great at the moment rules-wise ....
That wouldn't be a great problem: If I want it the easy way, I would had chosen one of the AI. Per Astra ad astrum!
To be fair, given that you have to select one order to be your primary, you could kinda say that you are playing that order as your Sectorial. And people will know what you are talking about, mostly anyway. If you ARE going to go with the Teutons @Karthor then the best way to get them to work is probably with a Fireteam Core of Order Sergeants, Joan of Arc as your Lieutenant and a couple of Specialist Sergeants to support your Teutonic Knights. Perhaps like: Military Orders ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 10 ORDER SERGEANT Heavy Rocket Launcher / Assault Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 15) ORDER SERGEANT Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15) ORDER SERGEANT Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13) ORDER SERGEANT Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13) ORDER SERGEANT Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13) JOAN OF ARC Lieutenant MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, AP CCW. (+1 | 49) TEUTONIC KNIGHT Spitfire / Pistol, AP CCW. (2 | 37) TEUTONIC KNIGHT Combi Rifle, Panzerfaust / Pistol, EXP CCW. (0 | 36) FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) MACHINIST (Father-Engineer) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15) GROUP 2 3 2 FUSILIER Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 18) SPEC. SERGEANT (CH: TO Camouflage, Infiltration, Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27) SPEC. SERGEANT (CH: TO Camouflage, Infiltration) MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 33) TECH-BEE (Remote Assistant Level 1, Specialist Operative) Flash Pulse / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5) WARCOR (Aerocam) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3) 5.5 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army
Joan's special order plus three Panzerfaust-toting Teutons = fireworks! Here's a list I'd be happy to take for a spin, I opted for a Fusilier+Bipsy link: Military Orders ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 10 JOAN OF ARC Lieutenant MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, DA CCW. (+1 | 50) TEUTONIC KNIGHT Combi Rifle, Panzerfaust / Pistol, EXP CCW. (0 | 36) TEUTONIC KNIGHT Combi Rifle, Panzerfaust / Pistol, EXP CCW. (0 | 36) TEUTONIC KNIGHT Combi Rifle, Panzerfaust / Pistol, EXP CCW. (0 | 36) FUSILIER HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 18) BIPANDRA Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23) FUSILIER (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) FUSILIER (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) SPEC. SERGEANT Heavy Rocket Launcher + AUXBOT_1 / Assault Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 19) AUXBOT_1 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4) SPEC. SERGEANT Heavy Rocket Launcher + AUXBOT_1 / Assault Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 19) AUXBOT_1 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4) GROUP 2 2 MACHINIST (Father-Engineer) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15) PALBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) SPEC. SERGEANT Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21) 4.5 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army
