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What Lurks In The Shadows - A Shasvastii Tactica (Post-DF)

Discussion in 'Combined Army' started by WarHound, Apr 7, 2019.

  1. WarHound

    WarHound Well-Known Member

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    Obviously.

    But in terms of risk when landing, having 3 markers go down instead of 1 miniature makes the odds of survival a little better, should the drop fail and the Cadmus needs to come on from a board edge situation.
     
  2. Reece

    Reece EI Aspect
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    Am I missing something, or are Seed Soldiers still S0 in camo state? I can't find anything that says otherwise.

    If so, it's too bad. You still have to make sure to tell your opponent which markers are S0 and which are S2.
     
  3. RobertShepherd

    RobertShepherd Brisk antipodean

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    You can disguise them by deploying them prone. This makes them indistinguishable from any other prone camo marker on a 25mm base. It also has the mixed-upside of making them hatch prone, which you might like and might dislike.
     
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  4. Aemaru

    Aemaru Well-Known Member
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    Are you sure this is legit ?
    Seems weird to have a s0 going prone to become s0
    But if so it make seed soldiers playable.

    It s really not understandable why cb accept mine to be s0 with a s2 camo and seed soldier s0 and not s2 when in camo state. There s no logic in it ....
     
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  5. Sabin76

    Sabin76 Well-Known Member

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    I believe the rationale is because mines can't "go prone". If they were S0 to start, every single mine would be called out for what it is. Troopers change their silhouette value when going prone, camo'd troopers can go prone, and the silhouette value of a camo'd trooper is open information. All of this means that if we want to be able to play min(e)d games, the rules as they are work. It, however, forces our troopers to not be prone (an interesting trade-off, IMO).
     
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  8. smog

    smog Well-Known Member
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    So I’ve been thought experimenting with the Cadmus profile, because I think they have a lot of potential.
    I think it was on the White Noise podcast episode “protect your embryos” where the guest said something along the lines of “how could you not love a mine that fires twice” while referring to seed soldiers. And I thought “what about a mine that fires twice and also has AD and has decoy so the opponent won’t know which is the mine?”
    Consider the following: Shas has turn 1. In the first time, you drop 2-4 Cadmus behind cover/around corners as shown below before doing whatever else you want to do turn 1. In the opponent’s next turn, he/she will have to consider everyone one of these as a possible mine and due to the placement, needs to spend orders clearing them out or risk a chest mine going of. And as they round a corner to shoot or dodge a decoy, the Noctifers with ML start appearing
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  9. bloodw4ke

    bloodw4ke Well-Known Member

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    Fun and maybe even effective! Let's call this strategy the "Cad-mess"
     
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    smog Well-Known Member
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    Redfaint Well-Known Member

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    What your opinion aboute this List. Shoud i swicht one Shrouded with a Cadmus? Or one taigha and the Nox hacker for the Cadmus?

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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    CALIBAN (Multispectral Visor L1) Spitfire, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 40)
    SPECULO KILLER (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Smoke Grenades, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Monofilament CCW, Knife. (1.5 | 39)
    SHROUDED (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25)
    SHROUDED (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25)
    MALIGNOS Hacker (EI Killer Hacking Device) Submachine Gun, Dazer, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 33)
    SEED-SOLDIER (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, D.E.P. / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17)
    SEED-SOLDIER (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, D.E.P. / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17)
    IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    NOX Hacker (EI Hacking Device) Submachine Gun, Zapper / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 17)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]2 [​IMG]4 [​IMG]4
    MENTOR Lieutenant Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 22)
    Q-DRONE HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26)
    TAIGHA Chain-colt / AP + Shock CCW. (0 | 5)
    TAIGHA Chain-colt / AP + Shock CCW. (0 | 5)
    TAIGHA Chain-colt / AP + Shock CCW. (0 | 5)
    TAIGHA Chain-colt / AP + Shock CCW. (0 | 5)

    5.5 SWC | 299 Points

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