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Varuna list, need advices

Discussion in 'PanOceania' started by Ekko, Apr 30, 2020.

  1. Ekko

    Ekko New Member

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    Hello everyone,

    I just finished to read the Varuna tactica (thanks to the author), so I wanted to share the core of my list. I need advices because this will be my buying list, I don't have any varuna miniatures for the moment :

    Varuna Immediate Reaction Division
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]9
    KAMAU (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 32)
    KAMAU HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 28)
    FUSILIER Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    ZULU-COBRA (Sensor) Combi Rifle, Jammer / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0 | 29)
    ZULU-COBRA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Breaker Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 28)
    ZULU-COBRA Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 28)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4
    TRAUMA-DOC Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    PALBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    MACHINIST (Varuna Div.) (CH: Mimetism, Stealth, Aquatic Terrain) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17)
    FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)

    4 SWC | 235 Points

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    I think that core will be good in any missions, what are your thoughts?

    Now, there is 65 points and 2 SWC to fill to finish the list. Depending on the mission, I thought about bringing :

    OPTION 1

    Varuna Immediate Reaction Division
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    [​IMG]1 [​IMG]2
    PATSY GARNETT Submachine Gun, Nimbus Plus Grenades, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 37)
    HELOT MILITIAMAN Red Fury / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 14)
    HELOT MILITIAMAN Red Fury / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 14)

    2 SWC | 65 Points

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    OPTION 2

    Varuna Immediate Reaction Division
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    [​IMG]1 [​IMG]3
    ECHO-BRAVO Red Fury / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 25)
    HELOT MILITIAMAN Red Fury / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 14)
    HELOT MILITIAMAN Shock Marksman Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    HELOT MILITIAMAN Shock Marksman Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)

    2 SWC | 65 Points

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    OPTION 3 (I will need to find 5 points somewhere)

    Varuna Immediate Reaction Division
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    [​IMG]1 [​IMG]2
    ORC HMG / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 44)
    HELOT MILITIAMAN Shock Marksman Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    HELOT MILITIAMAN Shock Marksman Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)

    2 SWC | 70 Points

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    OPTION 4

    Varuna Immediate Reaction Division
    ──────────────────────────────────────────────────

    [​IMG]1 [​IMG]3
    CROC MAN (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 32)
    HELOT MILITIAMAN Red Fury / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 14)
    HELOT MILITIAMAN Submachine Gun, Light Rocket Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 9)
    HELOT MILITIAMAN Submachine Gun, Light Rocket Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 9)

    2 SWC | 64 Points

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    So, what are your thoughts about all this? Do you have any other options? Should I swap some things in my core?
     
  2. AdmiralJCJF

    AdmiralJCJF Heart of the Hyperpower
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    Depending on the scenario there are a lot of things which you might want to swap out, or do with those remaining points.

    That is a pretty solid base 'though, and options 2, 3 and 4 all look very viable to add into it.

    You will probably also want a second box of DroneBot remotes, as a Pathfinder (or two) and a Sierra (or two) can also be useful options to have up your sleeve, and a Clipper is a great backup ARO piece for some Varuna builds (remember it can also go into the Fusilier Core).
     
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  3. yoink101

    yoink101 Well-Known Member

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    I firmly agree with everything @AdmiralJCJF said above.

    I’d also add, that it’s worth using the spitfire Zulu Cobra as a marksman rifle proxy (unless you want to do the modeling to make it happen) and/or purchasing a second jammer Zulu. Saving the SWC can leave room for the ORC and a couple of helots with light rocket launchers.
     
  4. Ekko

    Ekko New Member

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    Yes I know, this is the option that came to my mind, but i'm sure there's plenty more ;)
    May I ask you why the option 1 doesn't look viable to you?
    Ok, thanks I will buy that too !

    Same question, may I ask you why the option 1 doesn't look viable to you?
    Thanks for the modelling advice lol.
     
  5. Cartographer

    Cartographer Well-Known Member

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    Option 1 falls down because Patsy is basically a support piece, she's "nice to have" with something else that she supports. On her own she's neither particularly threatening (the SMG is largely a defensive gun not an offensive one) nor psychologically impactful (she won't cause your opponent to stop and rethink their course of action). You'd typically want to take her as a 3rd man in a Haris with an HMG; she can slap a -6 and a -1B on AROs dramatically improving the odds vs fireteams while maintaining a B4 offense, she brings a specialist and D-charges upfield, but she's a lot of points that can be quite easily substituted by a machinist for a lot fewer.

    Compare these two Haris teams for example:

    Varuna Immediate Reaction Division
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    PATSY GARNETT Submachine Gun, Nimbus Plus Grenades, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 37)
    KAMAU HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 28)
    KAMAU Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    1 SWC | 85 Points
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    with

    Varuna Immediate Reaction Division
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    [​IMG]3
    KAMAU HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 28)
    KAMAU (Fireteam: Haris) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
    MACHINIST (Varuna Div.) (CH: Mimetism, Stealth, Aquatic Terrain) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17)
    1.5 SWC | 66 Points
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    Now you already have both the HMG and the Machinist, so you could make either of these, but you've got a lot of gunfighting options already with the ZC so it sort of falls into redundant territory.
     
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  6. Ekko

    Ekko New Member

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    I see, thank you !
    This sectorial looks very fun to play though, I love Camo and Decoy gameplay.
     
  7. Crusader

    Crusader Well-Known Member

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    Patsy's purpose is to bring an ORC Haris or Core up to the field with NCO and being the compulsory specialist in the link of face-punchers.
     
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