Vanilla Aleph at Rumble

As promised in another thread, here is my lists and just general stuff. All of this is my personal opinion about vanilla and my favorite parts of it. I took notes from first round, from there its just bits and pieces.


So i just finished rumble and took 6th

My lists were:

Spoiler: Achilles List

**Rumble List 1
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GROUP 1 10
ACHILLES Lieutenant Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, EXP CCW. (2.5 | 75)
MYRMIDON OFFICER (Chain of Command) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (1 | 36)
DAKINI Tacbot HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 21)
PROXY Mk.1 Engineer Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
YUDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
PROXY Mk.5 (Forward Observer) 2 Submachine Guns, Nanopulser, E/M Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
DALETH Rebot Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 17)
PROBOT (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
PROBOT (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
NETROD . (0 | 4)
NETROD . (0 | 4)
NETROD . (0 | 4)

GROUP 2 5 1
NAGA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
ZAYIN Rebot HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26)
DANAVAS Hacker (Hacking Device Plus. UPGRADE: Maestro) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25)
LAMEDH Rebot Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
LAMEDH Rebot Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
WARCOR (Aerocam) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)
6 SWC | 300 Points
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And:

Spoiler: Hunting Party List

**Rumble List 2
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GROUP 1 8
PROXY Mk.1 Engineer Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
YUDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
PROXY Mk.2 Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
PROXY Mk.5 (Forward Observer) 2 Submachine Guns, Nanopulser, E/M Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
DEVA (Multispectral Visor L2) Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 33)
ZAYIN Rebot HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26)
DAKINI Tacbot Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
LAMEDH Rebot Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
LAMEDH Rebot Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
PROBOT (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
PROBOT (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
GROUP 2 8
ATALANTA MULTI Sniper Rifle + TinBot E (Spotter) / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 39)
MYRMIDON OFFICER Lieutenant Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0.5 | 31)
DANAVAS Hacker (Hacking Device Plus. UPGRADE: Maestro) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25)
DEVA (Sensor) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24)
DAKINI Tacbot HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 21)
NETROD . (0 | 4)
NETROD . (0 | 4)
NETROD . (0 | 4)
6 SWC | 300 Points
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My thoughts for my achilles list:

Spoiler: Achilles List thoughts

The achilles list was my all comers to do all but hunting party. Achilles will die some time during the game. In hunting party the LT is worth 4 points and losing 4 points is unacceptable.

I also made the myrm officer the data tracker each time. The myrm officer is powerful with nwi and odd and being given a free order from being LT, it's a strong choice.

The reason for the group break up is from the first assumption. Achilles will consume all the orders until his death. Achilles will kill everything. Achilles will die.

So with that, the ARO team of TR, and flash pulse bots get out of group 1. I put the danavas in the second pool because if a couple orders are capable of being spent on her, you can do some amazing things. And the naga's job was primarily to push buttons and maybe hack someone to death.

Mk1 engineer is important as everyone in my list is either remote, nwi or the danavas. While achilles is theoretically capable of being doctored, he is normally is some stupid place unc that getting a doctor to him is impractical. I did mk5 as no swc for mk2 and the aro piece that is mk5 was very useful as no loss of orders.

The dakini hmg is stupid strong (with hacker support) and very cheap. With needing another active powerful piece that can rambo, the dakini is a great choice. Double probot, triple netrod is purely for orders and maybe give repeater for my hmgs to supportware.

The daleth is because one of my meta keeps bringing superior infiltration and sniffer coordinated + sensor can hit most of my half the table. Also i had 17 points and couldn't find something better. Same reason for warcor, but that little guy was pretty boss, and situational reg order was nice.

And my thoughts on my second list:

Spoiler: List 2's thoughts

This list was less refined. Its a modified version of another list i use with conjunction of my achilles list. The goal was to grab every powerful trick or model in aleph that i like and put it in a list. Such as deva smoke, atalanta smoke. Dakini buffed, possibly white noised.

This list was theoritically supposed to go in rescue so i wanted a sensor due to infiltrating into my dead zone sounded very strong and that was my solution to it. My achilles list instead did rescue due to a rule i realized.

The rule was that Impeteous models and frenzy popped models cant civevac. Frenzy model can civevac however, and doesn't lose the citizen when the frenzy pops.

While i had a bit of specialists, the nwi, should keep them safe from unc then tased. Def if I'm afraid for them, i could declare dogged instead of nwi, killing them before they could be scored off of. I also choose the myrm officer as the LT so i have smoke for atalanta and spitfire, and because he is a powerful model to fight so unlikely to get hunted.

The reason for the 8-8 split is because i built this list and split them up so both pools should have force behind them. If a strong fighter is in a pool with no orders he will be moved, if a pool has a bunch of orders and no fighter then a fighter will be moved to that group.

A split i like as it gives my list variety on how to attack.

 

Round 1:

Started with my mk5 suicide by double moving against crazy koalas. Then my danavas used pitcher and maestro his interventor and winning.

Achilles killed a path to end btb with szalamander

He was in loss of LT due to an unc interventor.

He then used zero khd to kill danavas. Naga revealed himself trying to kill it. Failed. He walked onto table with engineer. Killed naga and got sabotage. He has TO sniper kill tr bot and daleth.

I fixed tr, it then died to sniper. Used warcor twice to fight sniper. Warcor died.

Had officer kill sniper, kill engineer, move and kill his zero and then kill his moira ending prone on a catwalk.

He had 2 orders and moved a super jumping camo token (bran i think) to middle piece.

I had achilles kill tag and then the superjumper. With no models left, achilles ended in btb with right console, mk1 ended on left. Officer pushing both buttons and ending in middle (he was data tracker).

Opponent had no 3rd turn with no remaining models left alive.

Ended 10-1 in my favor.

Mvp were achilles, myrm officer, and danavas.

 

Let me finish the rest of the rounds and will get back to you guys.

 

So round 2 was against accentemento.

This game was he had a good sniper apot with the bag mari link team, and 1 tag in another spot. His tag went on a rampage for a bit but i glued him. He fixed it with an engineer (tried with servant but didnt have enough orders). With his 1 specialist i finally knicked him out and got him glued, tieing us on specialists.

During that time i pressed 1 button and had accomplished test run (an auto take with the amount of remotes i had). My specialist he glued was sitting next to his hvt so i won the game 3-0.

 

Round 3 Played rescue against druze

I screwed up this game and should have lost more. Only reason i didnt was a last minute move that slowed him to much.

Achilles wanted to fire at a repeater baggage bot, and then in the same order walked into 8" of it.

Assault hacking oblivion and gotcha attacks against me later. I reset but gotcha had me. I managed to back up but wasted my entire turn.

His turn he successfully oblivioned achilles and crit em grenade on myrm officer so i was pretty screwed.

My last minute reason i only lost 0-1 was i double walked through an hmg druze to stare at all my civilians on my side. Saito grabbed it but took a bunch of orders getting around his combi sight as the myrm had nothing to lose and a crit against saito waiting to happen.

Got my civilian but didnt go anywhere with it. Lose 0-1

 

I played round 4 against combined army in power pack.

I went second and he had a very strong first turn. His speculo killer ate my right side and a TO assault hacker oblivioned achilles. Though my tr bot got that TO in exchange before my tr died.

Only reason why i won so well this game is because my flash pules came out in force.

For example a CA tr bit vs warcor and mk5. Split burst 2 on each. Warcor and mk5 both crit the tr bot. Charantid outside 16 and no cover vs mk5 in civer. Mk5 crits a flash pulse.

He was running a 10 order list so i managed to chip at his orders and sacrifice my naga to kill 1 of his 2 specialists (other was an evo hacker in a corner.

His last run with charantid data tracker had me do 2 wounds ti him. My hmg dakaini on my last tuen killed him. Flash pulse bot that barely survived previous turn shit at a TO missle launcher and won, stopping that. So my myrm officer data tracker just pushed 1 button and ran screaming to the touchdown of the opponents console and had to suffer a move-move through the hmg tr bots range within 16" and survived.

Won 10-1

 

Round 5 vs yu jing in capture and protect

So this opponent was one of my club mates which was sad doubly so as i played this exact list against him the friday before so he knew what was coming.

Durung deployment he made an infiltration roll so i knew someone was nearby.

On my turn:
Coordinated sniffer drop and then daleth sensired, finding me an oniwaban. I then ran my mk5 through sujians panzwrfaust to kill the oniwaban. Mk5 and oniwaban died, 1 panzerfaust gone. Buffed a tr bot and moved forward to fight that sujian, did a wound before he pieced out. I shot a repeater near him to slow it down.

During that time achilles did some damage on the right side and ended him in suppressive with a coordinated order so the daleth, myrm officer and dakini hmg where watching my corners.

On his turn:
He smoked up a rushi to fight achilles who wisely noped right out with only lose of 1 wd. A assault hacker walked on and tried oblivooning him, but successful resets or passed bts kept him safe.

Sujian freed itself from my releaters grip and knocked out my tr bot, my danavas, and the daleth.

My turn 2:
My dakini wanted to fight a sujian and monk. Lost to the sujians last panzer but monk smoked up the los.

So my engineer then fixed my dakini, daleth, and tr bot and hid in the cirner to go play fetch later in the game.

My naga then shot the sujian and did a wound letting the sujian fail guts. The naga then jumped into the smoke and killed an assault hacker whi was harrassing achilles (this one wasnt the one who walked on, he had 2 assault hackers and a normal hacking device). He ended his last order by recamoing in the middle of the table standing in smoke that a monk threw.

Achilles used his 2 free orders (popped frenzy and LT order) to go brutalize that hacker trying to oblivion me. With its death and the other ones death. Achilles swept around and ended his turn by killing the rushi and just standing in the open like a boss (a boss who wanted to die sometime soon so myrm officer could take over and get that beacon!

His turn 2:
His monk during the imp move, ended up unc which i was grateful for with me wanting data scan. His sujian tried to escape to slice the pie better but in the 1 firefight he needed to live, he got hit by my tr bot and died. He moved around trying to get extreme prejedice but achilles took to long to go unc (which he did finally) and couldnt get someone to him to finish the job.

My turn 3:
I shot the monk,
My camo marker (naga) snuck away and succeeded on data scan. My proxy mk 1 grabbed the beacon and gave it to my data tracker in my deployment zone needing all group 1's orders + LT order.

He had no turn 3 as he had 1 guy worth 19 points left so we called it there.

Win 10-0

 

Final thoughts:

My second list i ultimately didnt care much for but did its 1 job of being okay at hunting party. Could have used an ekdromoi as i need to hit the LT to win this scenario by a significant margin to get that major.

I actually wont change a thing in my achilles list. I played it wrong round 3, but i feel that i have the heavy firepower even with the 3.5 swc that achilles and obligatory myrm (and yes myrm officer is REQUIRED with achilles).

I used the myrms officer's combi rifle in all but 2 games and never needed eclipse over regular smoke. Do note i have access to white noise so if a msv2+ sniper is a problem, white noise is stronger as i can fire at them and they are at -6.

 

So dakini is bs 14 mimitism, immune to shock and very difficult to kill in 1 order due to unc lvl 2.

The ability to be difficult to completely kill is important as this model should be able to be repaired. I hate wanting ti doctir or repair something and it is completely dead.

Also, the dakini is stupid cheap points AND swc wise. 21 points and 1 swc is the cheapest good hmg in our faction.

For looks, i dont mind it as much.

I run the actual probots but agree it looks the worst and will be moving to grab another factions baggage soon that looks nicer.