v2.0 Nonlethal E/M CCW

clever handle · Jun 2, 2023

From the v2.0 release, nonlethal update seems to have neutered E/M CCW:

Non-Lethal.

No matter the ammunition type this weapon, piece of Equipment or Hacking Program uses, it doesn’t cause the target to lose points from its Wounds/ STR Attribute, or doesn’t require the target to make a Saving Roll when hit. Even if a Skill, rule or MOD adds or combines other ammunition types, the Non-Lethal Trait always take precedence, so this weapon, piece of Equipment, or Hacking Program never causes the target to lose points of its Wounds/STR Attribute
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previously the E/M CCW with its ammo type N+E/M and save BTS, was interpreted to cause the target to apply both ammo types - causing two saves against 0.5x BTS, applying both the wounds from N ammo, and the E/M isolation (and immobilization) effects for each unsaved wound.

How do E/M CCW work in the N4v2.0 world?

Brokenwolf · Jun 2, 2023

Aspect Graviton said: ↑

Think the answer there is that the weapon doesn't have the non lethal trait, and that trait in the glossary only states " No matter the ammunition type this weapon, piece of Equipment or Hacking Program uses" so it is referring to weapons and equipment rather than ammunition types and that EM CCw not having non lethal is a specific and intentional omission.
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There is a thread on this here (https://forum.corvusbelli.com/threads/new-e-m-ccw.42266/) . Currently, I support @Aspect Graviton's interpretation that E/M CCW do not have the Non-lethal trait, thus it does not apply to them.

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