Transmission Matrix for Bakunin

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  1. helsbecter

    helsbecter Ultrademocratic subSenator, #dominion Module

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    I tried this list out today but I am still not sure if it is good:

    [​IMG] Jurisdictional Command of Bakunin
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    [​IMG] ZERO Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
    [​IMG] ZERO Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
    [​IMG] ZERO Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 24)
    [​IMG] REVEREND HEALER Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, EXP CCW. (0 | 32)
    [​IMG] REVEREND HEALER MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, EXP CCW. (0 | 37)
    [​IMG] REVEREND MOIRA MULTI Rifle + E/M Light Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Shock CCW. (1 | 34)
    [​IMG] REVEREND MOIRA HMG / Pistol, Shock CCW. (1.5 | 34)
    [​IMG] REVEREND MOIRA MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Shock CCW. (1.5 | 34)
    [​IMG] REVEREND MOIRA Lieutenant MULTI Rifle / Pistol, Shock CCW. (1 | 30)
    [​IMG] AVICENNA Combi Rifle, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
    [​IMG] ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)

    5.5 SWC | 300 Points

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    The central idea is very simple: Zeroes hold the center, and the Moiras hold the DZ. What do you all think, aside from the obvious weakness to Intruder-types?
     
  2. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    What's AVI and the second Dr giving you?

    You're also seriously vulnerable to Warbands.

    [​IMG] Jurisdictional Command of Bakunin──────────────────────────────────────────────────[​IMG]10 [​IMG] ZERO Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)[​IMG] ZERO Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)[​IMG] ZERO Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 24)[​IMG] BRAN DO CASTRO Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 33)[​IMG] REVEREND HEALER Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, EXP CCW. (0 | 32)[​IMG] REVEREND MOIRA MULTI Rifle + E/M Light Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Shock CCW. (1 | 34)[​IMG] REVEREND MOIRA MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Shock CCW. (1.5 | 34)[​IMG] REVEREND MOIRA Lieutenant MULTI Rifle / Pistol, Shock CCW. (1 | 30)[​IMG] REVEREND MOIRA HMG / Pistol, Shock CCW. (1.5 | 34)[​IMG] REVEREND CUSTODIER Hacker (Hacking Device Plus) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 34) 6 SWC | 297 PointsOpen in Infinity Army

    If you need the Custodier for White Noise she goes outside the Repeater Net. If you don't then she goes inside as bait. You can also drop her Pitchers to get SO Bran.

    Personally though, I'd not run it as LI. I'd drop Bran to a Moderator Lt, upgrade the Moira LT to an AHD, downgrade the third Zero to and then grab as many Morlocks as can fit as an anti Warband screen (I always make certain they have at least 1 regular order though).

    [​IMG] Jurisdictional Command of Bakunin──────────────────────────────────────────────────GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10 [​IMG] ZERO Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)[​IMG] ZERO Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)[​IMG] ZERO (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19)[​IMG] REVEREND HEALER Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, EXP CCW. (0 | 32)[​IMG] REVEREND MOIRA MULTI Rifle + E/M Light Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Shock CCW. (1 | 34)[​IMG] REVEREND MOIRA MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Shock CCW. (1.5 | 34)[​IMG] REVEREND MOIRA HMG / Pistol, Shock CCW. (1.5 | 34)[​IMG] REVEREND MOIRA Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) MULTI Rifle / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0.5 | 36)[​IMG] REVEREND CUSTODIER Hacker (Hacking Device Plus) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 34)[​IMG] MODERATOR Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]1 [​IMG]3 [​IMG]3[​IMG] SALYUT (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)[​IMG] MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 6)[​IMG] MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 6)[​IMG] MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 6) 5.5 SWC | 300 PointsOpen in Infinity Army
     
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  3. Robock

    Robock Well-Known Member

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    Personally I would not go LI, even less so with Moira link. Zero controlling the centre is easy said. the enemy is also holding the centre with his own infiltrators. I would use minelayer, deploy the mine before enemy marker gets deployed in its blast radius, or if you're too late then deploy such that all enemy markers are in total cover from the mine.

    Dunno why so many healers, the mission doesn't have any doctor bonus and you are missing out on some other Classified. Swapping for Secure HVT is a bad idea as you get points to kill him with your datatracker. I guess Avicenna is your datatracker ? She's the only fast model not in a camo state.

    I agree to spam hacker, as bakunin, even though other player might go the approach of have nothing you can hack. If they do have hackers though at least you have more of them, and you can chose which one to ARO with. In my list though I was adding a SS2 hacker (in a moderator link, but you could add it in your Moira link). Also you could use some warbands.
     
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  4. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    I think Sixth Sense for Transmission Matrix is important. If you're running HI you run it with Stealth.
     
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  5. helsbecter

    helsbecter Ultrademocratic subSenator, #dominion Module

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    Transmission Matrix is a tough mission for me no matter how many times I play it.

    I've taken a pile of Moiras because I feel like it rewards you for standing around and shooting from your DZ. That's why I have no warband protection - I'll rely on distance. The Moiras press on the center when the Zeroes fail.

    Avicenna's purpose is to be datatracker and to make sure any wounded folks are up in a single order and with no Command token. I need all the Command tokens for link team nonsense.

    I think after reading this I will abandon the LI idea. I'll just make sure I don't go first.
     
  6. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    Even if you go first what you gain from the second order pool mitigates the two orders you lose.

    I'd want to go second with that list anyway: there's barely 10 orders worth of things to do if going first, given my opponent's would deploy conservatively vs a full Moira Core.

    First time I rebuilt that list was with Kusanagi. :(
    Honestly I think you're fine with just the linked Healer.
     
  7. helsbecter

    helsbecter Ultrademocratic subSenator, #dominion Module

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    Yeah, that's the heart of the matter - what do you *do* in Transmission Matrix? My answer right now is *nothing*, so that guided me to Moiras.

    Perhaps I could rewrite with Sin-Eaters instead of Moiras. I'm preparing to paint my Sin Eater spitfire...
     
  8. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    Kill your opponent's troops. Moiras don't really go out and kill things though.

    Really you need a forward attack piece. Ideally 2. Moiras kick down the door with B5 linked ODD [attack piece] goes out and kills things.

    Basically - discounting Hackable things - this is Bran, Prowlers or Uberfalls in Bakunin.

    I like the Uberfalls+Moira combo. Everything they leave out to ARO the Uberfall is another target for the link.
     
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  9. timmy

    timmy Active Member

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    I might try something like this for Bakunin.

    [​IMG] Jurisdictional Command of Bakunin
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]6 [​IMG]4 [​IMG]4
    [​IMG] ZERO Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 24)
    [​IMG] ZERO Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 24)
    [​IMG] ZERO Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
    [​IMG] PROWLER Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Adhesive Launcher / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 32)
    [​IMG] PROWLER Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Adhesive Launcher / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 32)
    [​IMG] PROWLER Spitfire, D-Charges / Pistol, CCW. (2 | 36)
    [​IMG] MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, E/M CCW. (0 | 6)
    [​IMG] MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, E/M CCW. (0 | 6)
    [​IMG] MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, E/M CCW. (0 | 6)
    [​IMG] MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, E/M CCW. (0 | 6)

    GROUP 3[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]5 [​IMG]5 [​IMG]5
    [​IMG] MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, E/M CCW. (0 | 6)
    [​IMG] MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, E/M CCW. (0 | 6)
    [​IMG] MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, E/M CCW. (0 | 6)
    [​IMG] MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, E/M CCW. (0 | 6)
    [​IMG] BAKUNIN ÜBERFALLKOMMANDO . (0 | 23)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] CHIMERA Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, Eclipse Grenades / Viral CCW. (0 | 20)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] x3 PUPNIK DA CCW. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] MODERATOR MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 17)
    [​IMG] MODERATOR Spitfire / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 15)
    [​IMG] MODERATOR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    [​IMG] MODERATOR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    [​IMG] MODERATOR Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)

    5 SWC | 299 Points

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    Two Zeroes in the middle, one back in deployment zone on that antenna. Core link team on the other. Let the Prowlers form a pincer maneuver and have the morlocks and chimera ready to get aggressive. I don't think anyone would be expecting this.
     
  10. helsbecter

    helsbecter Ultrademocratic subSenator, #dominion Module

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    Huh, I never noticed Prowlers are AVA 3 in Bakunin. I'd thought it remained at 2.

    Looks like I need to convert a boarding shotgun after all.
     
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