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Time for prone remotes?

Discussion in 'Rules' started by Longman, May 8, 2020.

  1. Longman

    Longman Member

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    Did i miss something or can remote units now go prone?
    All i have seen is "► If a Trooper enters the Unconscious state, it automatically falls Prone unless it is a TAG, a Troop Type that is unable to go Prone."
    And at end of the rules there is a restricted chart that only states TAGs are unable to go prone.
     
  2. toadchild

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    In Code One REMs can go prone.
     
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  3. Papa Bey

    Papa Bey Clueless Wonder. Still.

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    Please keep in mind this is a basic rule set. The full blown N4 may return to these sorts of things.
     
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    So now the Dakini MSR makes a bit more sense...
     
  5. HellLois

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    Excatly, remotes can go prone!

    Maybe yes, but not with the remotes going prone ;)


    Sit boy! ohh good doggyrem :P
     
  6. Abydog

    Abydog Well-Known Member

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    Very interesting.
    And rather a big change. That is a huge disadvantage of remotes now gone. I do have the feeling that N4 is going to play quite differently compared to N3, with that and the probable change in movement for HI and MI.
     
  7. Willen

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    We had a relationship between being able to Prone and Dodge negatives... REM prone is a buff for certain units, but them being able to Dodge as a regular mini would be a gamechanger IMO.
     
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  8. Bobman

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    Can they not dodge without extra penalties?
     
  9. ijw

    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    There are no troop type Dodge penalties listed in CodeOne, so Remotes are Dodging just like any other unit.
     
  10. toadchild

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    My secret hope is that weird things like Karakuri and Su Jian will be reclassed as REMs instead of HI, but I'm not holding my breath
     
  11. Willen

    Willen Well-Known Member

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    I am... happy for the simplification, but worried now to see TAG rules in C1.
     
  12. Willen

    Willen Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I guess I missed that. Problem would be if that is the case of TAGs with PH15-16, since the balance was always the -6 to dodge.

    REMs dodging on normal now, which I missed, it is actually an interesting buff.
     
  13. Bobman

    Bobman MERC
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    Are TAG rules in C1, I haven't looked yet they're due for release.
     
  14. ijw

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    TAG rules are in CodeOne. They can't go Prone.
     
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  15. Bobman

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    Yes, I did see that. Do they dodge without penalty?
     
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    What we don't know is if they'll have something on their statline that provides a negative mod to their dodges.
     
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    The current state of TAG rules in C1 is not good. This is the only place that mentions that TAGs can't go prone:

    ► If a Trooper enters the Unconscious state, it automatically falls Prone unless it is a TAG, a Troop Type that is unable to go Prone.

    That really needs to be front and center, rather than being a note under unconsciousness.
     
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    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Are there any penalties in CodeOne at all that applies to the owning trooper? As in, not the circumstantial MODs from something like "Opponent in ZoC", but where the -3 comes from the trooper itself.
     
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    Well, I want to say that they could just have Dodge (-3) on their statline, but then we run into this:

    •A positive MOD (+) in round brackets next to a Special Skill, Weapon, or Equipment will be applied only to the user of that Special Skill, Weapon, or Equipment.
    •A negative MOD (-) in round brackets next to a Special Skill, Weapon, or Equipment will be applied only to enemies.​

    So that wouldn't work.
     
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