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The Tohaa Trashtalk

Discussion in 'Tohaa' started by melkiach, Apr 20, 2020.

  1. melkiach

    melkiach PheroBoosted

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    Hey BroHaas!

    I have created this post to make the quarantine a little more bearable, this time going back a little to those times where we liked to speculate that posible things could come to Tohaa in the future, specifically, in the form of sectorial armys

    Before we start, I would like to point out that this is one more post based on ideas that we would like to come to life and that have nothing to do with the rules, just for the pleasure of imagining a future for our favorite faction.

    How to discuss about this post? Easy! Just be respectful of the people who participate in it, do NOT say heartbreaking things like "Tohaas will been extinct" and try to transmit your ideas as logical and true to the background as you can

    My idea of Sectorial Armys for the Tohaa does not end with the classic "Exalted Sectorial Army" but I have tried to go a little further, not only for personal enjoyment, but to demonstrate that, like every other faction in this game, the background is so Tohaa's magnificent allows us to dream of endless possibilities!


    #Exalted Sectorial Army

    Perhaps not in the form of a regular army but as a support force in colonization, my vision of this Sectorial Army would be represented in the form of a Tohaa conglomerate of which they speak in the background books, Haalabal for example, where under the The pretext of a company focused on biotechnology and resources on exaltation could support the current state of the human sphere. And yes, as a good company it will always be stained with the presence of Triumvirate, so it will have that cool flavor typical of this alien race.

    What could we find here?

    Very few triad options and a game more focused on the use of synchronized and exalted troops, as well as Chaksas core

    Chaksas S5, with no big BS but heavy resistance
    Chaksas Ambushers, with limited camo and CC weapons (maybe some more expensive profile with an option to CC Pheromonic to bring new options?) [With N4 changes, Camouflage, Surprise Attack -3 NO MIMETISM]
    Chaksa Character, capable of forming links with other chaksas and as a clear example of the success of exaltation
    Chaksa Bodyguard, light infantry that allows to form more variety of links with more regular and simple weapons
    Tohaa Character S4, with Simbiobeast [With N4 changes, Guardian, yay!]
    Tag or Taglike Beast, with or without rider with or without symbiont armour, S6-S7 (Added from @Oni and @ChoTimberwolf , thanks for the suggestion)

    #Classical Tohaa Sectorial Army

    The police military force that the ambassador requested from the council because of her suspicions about the Triumvirate.

    An idea would be that some Commander of some Wandering Ships who had just achieved a victory against the Combined Army thanks to the fact that they are diverting military personnel to Paradiso.

    In this context, we would have, on the one hand, ships capable of crossing the portal without the Daedalu's Jumpgate being open (Minotauro Tohaas Engines?), And on the other hand, another Sectorial in favor of Humanity, willing to work side by side with the Sphere Human to beat the Combined Army, in other words, the Good Tohaa

    What could we find here?

    In this sectorial army we would enjoy a very conservative approach Tohaa, a high capacity to form triads and with troops that give us this flavor of versatility and a committed fight against the EC

    Tohaa profile with "repeat" Nullifier or with a nullifying "pitcher" [With N4 Changes, Inmunity State: Market and Inmunity State: Sepsitorized should do it]

    Tohaa character with 2 profiles (camo or parachutist) that can form a link, would give us this flavor of versatility in the middle of the battle

    Tohaa character, who had access to a medical profile or pheroware tactics such as Revitalis or First Aid [With N4 changes, something like a upgraded Kumotail Profile with +1R like Kaauri should work]

    Tohaa unit NCO to use LT extra Order

    #Late Motive Tohaa Sectorial Army

    An extraction group tied to the command of special operations, dedicated entirely to protecting and hiding the Tzeetchi Digesters (Tzeetchi, txetxi, texi, ... that thing that Tohaa loves more than money)

    We would have a division of veteran agents who already have the success of having recovered and insured a Digester and who come to achieve their objective at all costs

    What could we find here?

    A more playful style based on Tohaa high bio-technology and exploit it, a few triads and many non-linkable but more technical units, so more expensive and less orders army

    Tohaa with TO and Symbiont Armor (not linkable) with light elite weaponry (viral or breaker) [With N4 changes, Mimetism -6, Hidden Deployment, Surprise Attack -6 ,NO CAMOUFLAGE]

    Tohaa with pheroware Hellzone (linkable) [With N4 changes, maybe Eraser or Corahtar 1 Simbiobomb]

    Tohaa Character with pheroware Pandemonium (not linkable) [With N4 Changes, this Character can be redundant and just be like the previous profile or get Endgame]

    Tohaa unit with Symbiont Armor and Sensor [With N4 changes, Triangulated Fire]

    Tohaa character with Strategos

    PD:

    As you can see this is only based on playing with my imagination thanks to the magnificent background behind this faction that we like so much, surely you will have better ideas and that is why I would love to read them and make community in these times of COVID- 19, I hope you liked it or that it can at least serve to entertain us a little, debate and shake this part of the forum
     
    #1 melkiach, Apr 20, 2020
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  2. Oni

    Oni Well-Known Member

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    I really like you ideas espacially the last one. Pheroware is one thing that is used too little in Tohaa. As someone who really like to play more elite troops this would be my dream sectorial. As the in new edition it is most likely that armour values will get more important i would prefer some K1 ammo but else this idea is golden ;)

    The idea with the police force is great as well, it would be cool if you can use the kauuri in all kind of triads(i really like the style of the small critters).

    For you first suggestion there is one thing missing. The exhalted "TAG" huge mounted Surda-like beast S7. Similar to the new blue wolf but with more tohaa flavour. I mean everybody should have a giant surda beast ^^.

    Thank you for your ideas and the thread i really looking forward to hear the ideas of the other brohaas :).
     
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    Like a Tag then? Or just an oversized exalted unit?
     
  4. ChoTimberwolf

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    The only new unit I really want are Symbio Beast Rider. The Tohaa Cavallery xD
    i love triads so the classic sector would be most appealing for me but I would love to try others also :)
    Damn need to play some games again maybe my gf will be up for a game on the weekend ;)
     
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    Something in between i would say. S7 so they don´t have to make a new silhoutte and a TAG like price bracket (80-90 Points). A bigger Surda beast with TAG like armour and bts, melee capable like the blue wolf but maybe with viral ccw. Mounted by an ectros or some Symbio MI.

    Hi Phys
    BS -13
    CC- 20-23 (with NBW or Protheon 1-2)
    Arm 6-9
    BTS 6-9

    You just need to make it special. Maybe i splitted profile like for our Symbio Troopers.

    At first the unit can shoot and melee. Until it looses the first two wounds. After that either the rider is shot down so it can´t shoot no more or the rider lost his mount so no enhanced melee.

    Rider
    BS-13
    CC-16
    WIP-13
    ARM 2-3
    BTS 2-3

    Something in that direction would be interresting, at least for me.
     
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    melkiach PheroBoosted

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    I like both ideas, and it is one of the requests that I have read the most about Tohaa players since the time I have been playing Infinity, however, I have not included them in my ideas since it seems "strange" to see them as troops inside from a skirmish game mission

    Maybe the same idea but with smaller silhouettes? The armored beast that you suggest can be a good idea, if not when I imagine an S7 beast, very caskudas images come to my mind
     
  7. Oni

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    Yeah it would be pretty special. But in Tohaa there are less limitations then in other armys. We are Aliens after all. Go nuts :). When not in Tohaa, where else you have possibility for stuff like that.

    A Bioengineered heavy armored beast of mass destruction with fangs and claws. Yes please :). With Rider? Of course :) (is it even possible without?).

    The big silhouette is debatable. But i think that the proportions would be way off. The concept of mounted beasts is very fitting for tohaa colonists that need to be adaptable to survive on life hostile planets doing the things they do best. Bioengineering and breeding aliens to help them.

    But i would also like to see more Pheroware users that dont have to rely on symbio bombs. So much possibilities.
     
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    it also be good a profile that provides 1 or 2 Simbiobombs (and no way to provide Simbiomates) to play on purpouse for those Simbiobombs

    Maybe a character profile or unit profile?

    @Oni and @ChoTimberwolf i added your suggestion to the #Exalted Sectorial Army
     
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  9. Oni

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    That is a really good idea to have profile that bring symbiobombs beside the Kaeltar specialists. That would prevent that you can spam Pheroware but would also encourage you to do it more, because you are not limited to 2 tries if you want the coc Kaeltar too. But nevertheless we could use 1-2 Profile like the Kriigel more, that can use some of the weaker Pherowares for free.

    As I dont like to take the Symbiomates i would be pleased if we get a Kaeltar Coc Profile with bombs.

    For the police force it would be cool to have some more helper alien. Maybe some kind of Mad Traps to stun, demobilice someone to capture him alive.
     
  10. Romulas

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    Police force idea I like, but instead of the squirt guns primarrally k1.

    I'm digging the large beast, main problem I had with my beasts is they were too squishy. (And my dice suck, dodge on 18 is great but when you manage to roll 4s or 5s good luck) balance large size with tag armour. Make it a K-9 unit with a couple handlers?

    I also like the stealth force, ODD or lots of TO, but that would bring the haters out of the woodwork.

    I would have also liked to see more of the pheroware options. having the kaeltar as the special handler was fine, but medics with heal options or forward observers with scan options would have been cool. Giving the mate or bomb to a model to give more options than what it had.

    More use of the bioversity, bug swarm as smoke/low burst zone, more uplifted creatures, more of a balance with nature.

    Hoping the next iteration will be as enjoyable and make the grognards cry as hard
     
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    Never worry about whether there will be more or less good things or if more or less people will like it, simply if it is "wise-point" balanced.

    This kind of "ODD" or "TO" units are also usually more expensive, so, in the event that they came into existence, it would be difficult to square them in the same list.

    A more expensive style of orders but harder units, more elite, for those who like to play with fewer models and fewer orders (Like other existing sectorial armys)
     
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    melkiach PheroBoosted

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    With the new changes of N4... when Tohaa + Symbiobeast S4 with Guardian Skill? Muahahaha
     
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    Oni Well-Known Member

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    Oh yes, that would be sooooooooo cool. Please make it happen.
     
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    Edited with some N4 flavour
     
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