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The Dahshat Duo

Discussion in 'Dahshat Company' started by Space Ranger, Apr 10, 2019.

  1. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like a new dance or super hero team right? Lol

    Well since Haris and Core have already been brought up, I thought I’d start a discussion on Duo.

    It has also been confirmed that A Duo with the Rafiq and Mahgriba Guard are possible with Wildcards.

    So here’s some teams and thoughts on what do with them.

    Note: to make a Duo, at least one of them MUST have the Duo Skill. Those in Dahshat include: Miranda Ashcroft (Combi Rifle), Brawlers (all of them), Odalisques (all of them), Rafiq FTO, 2 of the 5 versions of Maghariba Guard.
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    Special Fireteam: Duo. Miranda Ashcroft + 1 Bounty Hunter.

    MIRANDA ASHCROFT Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Knife. (0 | 24)
    BOUNTY HUNTER Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    0 SWC | 39 Points

    This is a team I’ve used before in ISS. I mainly took Miranda as area denial by putting her in suppression. She’s still great for this job. The BSG ABH with her was mostly for watching her back or in the lead to distract anyone from Miranda. There was one time the ABH got a motorcycle and had a lot of fun! You can of course make the ABH have a better weapon but I think Dahshat, I’d rather have them in a Core or Haris where they can do the most good.

    MIRANDA ASHCROFT Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Knife. (0 | 24)
    BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    0 SWC | 36 Points

    This is now the team I’d rather do. I’m going to getting, at some point, the Dart SMG to be the ABH. This is a good cheap objective grabbing team that take up position and then both go into Suppression fire.
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    Special Fireteam: Duo. 1 Rafiq Remote FTO + 1 Maghariba Guard.

    MAGHARIBA (Fireteam: Duo, 360º Visor) MULTI HMG, 2 Heavy Flamethrower, Mine Dispenser / . (2 | 99)
    [​IMG] MAGHARIBA PILOT Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. ()
    RAFIQ REMOTE FTO (Fireteam: Duo) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 17)
    OR
    RAFIQ REMOTE FTO (Fireteam: Duo) Red Fury, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 22)

    Note: The Rafiq must be the FTO version but the Maggy does not since the Rafiq FTO has the Duo skill.

    I really don't know why someone would take the Heavy Pistol but that's me. I think that if I was going to do this it would be with the Rifle+Lt. Shotgun because the Maggy alone is making the SWC really high. I have not experienced this but I can see it leading with with the Rafiq to Sensor and then Maggy following up.
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    ODALISQUE Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 30)
    ODALISQUE Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24)
    1 SWC | 54 Points

    This could be an interesting team. They unfortunately have no specialist but they can help one by going into an area and then going into Suppression fire.
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    BRAWLER Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Submachine Gun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 17)
    BRAWLER Engineer Rifle + Light Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    0.5 SWC | 37 Points

    This is a great cheap specialist duo. They have some short ranges on weapons but some make up for it in cheapness. Great for getting them up to button pushing and if you loose one, well you have another!
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    Now for some Wildcard shenanigans.
    Miranda Ashcroft, Sforza FTO, Valerya Gromoz, and Authorized Bounty Hunters are Wildcards that can replace one of the members of a Duo. Remember though, one of them must have the Duo Skill. But all Brawlers and Odalisques have the skill.

    Here's one that seems interesting to me.

    RAFIQ REMOTE FTO (Fireteam: Duo) Red Fury, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 22)
    SFORZA FTO (Holoprojector L1) Viral Rifle + Adhesive Launcher, Nanopulser / Heavy Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 28)
    0.5 SWC | 50 Points

    Sforza would be disguised as a ABH with SMG. Which would happen to also be a legal team. You have a Specialist with he Rafiq as well as a great gunfighter. Awesome for moving on to a position to take and hold. Especially if the Rafiq is modified.

    The Rafiq FTO, since itself has the Duo skill, can have a Sforza, Miranda, and any ABH with it.

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    MIRANDA ASHCROFT Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Knife. (0 | 24)
    ODALISQUE Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 30)
    1 SWC | 54 Points

    A cool power team. You've got a Specialist in Ashcroft and a good gunfighter with the Spitfire Oda.

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    MIRANDA ASHCROFT Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Knife. (0 | 24)
    SFORZA FTO (Holoprojector L1) Viral Rifle + Adhesive Launcher, Nanopulser / Heavy Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 28)
    0 SWC | 52 Points

    Another power team. Sforza can make himself look like an ABH and next think you know its Viral in the face!

    So what would would you guys do with your Duo?

    What creative things would you do with Wildcards?
     
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  2. borings

    borings Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for this writeup, very handy
     
  3. Space Ranger

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    Something I forgot to Note! You can have any number of Duo teams! You are limited to 1 Core and 1 Haris, but you can hav say 4 Duo.
     
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  4. KestrelM1

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    Funny, I don't really know why someone would take the 2xHeavy Flamethrowers. The Heavy Pistol gives you an FTF ARO option to cover your HMG's blind spot and allows you to pose an ARO conundrum to targets within 8" - dodge and FTF with a pistol, or shoot and eat a HFT?

    I usually only take Duos when I can either have a heavy gun tow a specialist to an objective, or move a lot of points into a zone for few orders. With that in mind I think the Brawler Doctor would probably be my go-to for a lot of Duo teams. She pairs well with the ABH Red Fury/Spitfire, the Brawler HRL, and even Sforza.

    I think the Maghariba and Rafiq will greatly appreciate a Duo with a non-hackable killer like an ABH, Sforza, or Miranda. The Maghariba pairs very well with Miranda's Boarding Shotgun profile, and the Rafiq will happily bring along an SMG or BSG Bounty Hunter.

    I think a savvy opponent is going to be veeeeery suspicious when you decline to make a Booty roll for your ABH. If you're doing a Duo with Miranda you can basically pretend to be any other legal Duo model, though - Valerya, Brawler, or Odalisque all work. Or just pretend to be Miranda and really keep your opponent guessing!
     
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  5. momo234

    momo234 Well-Known Member

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    Valerya is an excellent holo for Sforza. Just sneak by the enemy hackers and laugh when they try to argue that they can Redrum you to death.
     
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  6. LuAn

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    How would that work/resolve? If my opponent declares Hack as an ARO on Holo'd Sforza, and I just move as second short? (because I'm inside a repeater, but outside LoF)
     
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    None of that would work really, the Hackable characteristic of a Holo model is public information, regardless of what it’s disguised as.

    Last game I used Sforza disguised as a boarding shotgun Odalisque. My opponent walked out in front of her from what he thought was a safe range (over 24”) with his own shotgun armed model, only to be shot with a Viral Rifle on 13’s.
     
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  8. Space Ranger

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    Hope he doesn't pay attention? :grin:

    He could look like anything but only the Wildcards can link with the Rafiq. Valerya and ABH are the only ones least suspicious. He can't duplicate the ODD on Miranda.
     
  9. momo234

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    Well yeah the cover is easily blown, doesn't mean it can't still be fun :)

    I not there are plenty of juicy choices for holo1 shenanigans.
     
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  10. KestrelM1

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    He can't claim the modifier if he's being shot at, but he can absolutely duplicate the ODD until that point. You're completely free to explain that ODD imposes a -6 penalty to shooting right up until your opponent actually commits to an attack and goes to determine MODs.
     
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