Tag game QK (2 tag list)

I came up with this list and I'm temted to try it out.


Militant Purity
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10 2
IGUANA Heavy Machine Gun, Heavy Flamethrower / CC Weapon. (1.5 | 65)
IGUANA OPERATOR Heavy Machine Gun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 0)
SCARFACE Loadout Gamma & CORDELIA TURNER undefined / undefined. (1.5 | 81)
SCARFACE Loadout Gamma AP Spitfire(+1B), Panzerfaust / DA CC Weapon. (1.5 | 64)
SCARFACE Boarding Shotgun, Grenades / Pistol, Shock CC Weapon. (- | 0)
CORDELIA TURNER Combi Rifle, Chain-colt, D-Charges / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 17)
NASMAT PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 3)
DJANBAZAN (BS Attack [Shock]) AP Sniper Rifle / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 31)
DJANBAZAN (BS Attack [Shock]) AP Sniper Rifle / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 31)
HAFZA Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 15)
HAFZA (Lieutenant) Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 15)
LEILA SHARIF (Hacker) Shock Marksman Rifle, E/M Mines, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 20)
SHIHAB REMOTE Heavy Machine Gun / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (1 | 24)
KAMEEL (Hacker, EVO Hacking Device) ( ) / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0.5 | 15)

5.5 SWC | 300 Points

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The defensive core is rock solid in my opinion, and the armoured potential is nice, even though Iggy is facing some tough competition as far as HMG platforms are concerned. We've got REMs, we've got EVO, we've got an Engineer. All in all, seems pretty well-rounded, albeit not having any midfield presence at all.

 

In N3 I tried similar lists but found 2 tags just ate up too many points. In N4, it may be better because all the TAGS have Tactical Awareness. If the scenario calls for TAGS controlling zones it may be more beneficial. The way I see it you need max 2 order sinks in a list. One is ideal. Haqqs main benefit is that you have a lot on good LIs that fill different roles and can be spread out and only need 1-2 order make use of. If you have to centralize your orders in key pieces you can't leverage the others. One thing I try is to plan out your order sinks to be used sequentially. In vanilla I use Fiday turn one as my main order sync, Turn 2 have my TAG be the main order sink. Supported by Infiltrating LIs that can be deployed in controls zone using no orders.

If I really wanted to play 2 TAGs, I would drop the offensive djanbzan fireteam, put in ghulam or aquacile defensive fire team. If the scenario call for it, plan on using just 1-2 orders to move the fireteam into a control zone then sit and ARO. It doesn't have as many toys in it, but you can focus your orders much more easily. I also like having 1-2 models in the second battle group to refill the primary as needed. Since we're looking at a Ghulam fire team I'd also leverage the NCO. With this you can still focus your orders on the tags, and have an additional orders for your fireteam. I left the Druze KHD just because the pitcher is very order efficient.



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GROUP 1 10 2
IGUANA Heavy Machine Gun, Heavy Flamethrower / CC Weapon. (1.5 | 65)
IGUANA OPERATOR Heavy Machine Gun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 0)
SCARFACE Loadout Gamma & CORDELIA TURNER undefined / undefined. (1.5 | 81)
SCARFACE Loadout Gamma AP Spitfire(+1B), Panzerfaust / DA CC Weapon. (1.5 | 64)
SCARFACE Boarding Shotgun, Grenades / Pistol, Shock CC Weapon. (- | 0)
CORDELIA TURNER Combi Rifle, Chain-colt, D-Charges / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 17)
GHULAM Sniper Rifle / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 16)
GHULAM Sniper Rifle / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 16)
GHULAM (NCO) Rifle, Grenade Launcher, Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1 | 15)
GHULAM (Lieutenant [+1 Command Token]) Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 15)
LEILA SHARIF (Hacker) Shock Marksman Rifle, E/M Mines, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 20)
DRUZE (Hacker, Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Pitcher, D-Charges ( ) / Viral Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 28)
HAWWA' (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun, Flash Pulse, D-Charges / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 22)

GROUP 2 1
HAWWA' (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun, Flash Pulse, D-Charges / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 22)

5 SWC | 300 Points

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Two-TAG lists have had some popularity with Pano players in N4. I think it's mostly SAA players running a Dragao+Tik combo. I tried one in a game of Biotechvore recently and it was a lot of fun. You can lose a lot of chaff and still have a surprisingly robust order pool thanks to double tac awareness.

Here is a thread about a double Jotum list: https://forum.corvusbelli.com/threads/winter-is-coming-an-n4-tournament-report.39202/ Amazingly, he manages to have two combat groups (although not the full 15 orders).

Normally, Pano is the best faction for a TAG centered list, because of Remote Presence. You can have 10 orders in group 1 and pump them all into the TAG if you want, and 5 orders in group 2 to repair the TAG. With a two-TAG list, I think the equation is different. You probably don't have the orders to send repairing TAGs, instead you rely on the fact that if your opponent kills one of them you still have another one. So the discount from not having Remote Presence becomes a feature, not a bug.

In short, I like the idea and think you should give it a try. Of the lists posted, I prefer the first one with the two Hawwa hackers. TAGs aren't good at operating in the midfield, so they pair very well with skirmishers to shore up their weaknesses. Once you've eliminated your opponents' snipers, your TAGs could easily just sit on ARO duty all game while you spend your orders on the Hawwas.

 

Keep in mind that in N4, your opponent can still drain two orders even if you have only one group.

 

The last minute movement of points has won me games by claiming zones.