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Synchronise Civilian and Fire Teams

Discussion in 'ITS' started by 1337Bolshevik, Jan 29, 2021.

  1. 1337Bolshevik

    1337Bolshevik Let them eat repeaters

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    The synchronise Civilian skill makes no mention of fire teams, which implies it's now possible to enter civ evac state with out being booted from a fire team. Is this correct or a oversight?
     
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  2. QueensGambit

    QueensGambit Chickenbot herder

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    One tournament ruled it as "synchronized civilians follow the same rules/restrictions as Peripheral(Synchronized)." It's a house rule, but a good one IMO. It solves the various lacunae in the Civevac state as it's currently written.
     
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  3. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    I think because civilians no longer having any real footprint in the tactical game that there's no point banning Fireteam members from synching other than specifically punishing sectorials.
     
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    There's a pretty consistent rules philosophy that things can't be synchronized in two different ways at once, though. It's possible that they decided to make an exception to give fireteams a boost in Rescue, but I think it's more likely an oversight.
     
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  5. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Possibly, but I'd argue that the reason it was banned in previous ITS seasons could equally have been the oversight because Synchronise Civilian referenced the Ghost: Synchronized rule by way of not having to repeat a lot of rules. We may never know, truly, but I'd still argue that altering how the rules work should require deeper consequence analysis than "it used to work like this" so that you also ask yourself "do we actually gain something by changing how it works?"

    IMO, Rescue is one of the worst missions and anything that makes it harder for anyone involved is bad :)
     
  6. HellLois

    HellLois What the Hell...Lois?
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    On the Synchoronize Civilian Rule there is a errata.
    The last Requirement bullet should be:
    It is performing a Coordinated order, or or being part of any type of Fireteam.

    I take note to fix it in the next ITS Update.
     
  7. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Shouldn't the CivEvac state also have a cancellation clause for the Controller being part of a Coordinated Order or a Fireteam as well then?
     
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  8. HellLois

    HellLois What the Hell...Lois?
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    yep ^^
     
  9. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    Having played the new rescue it's really not that bad anymore. Removing the terrain rules from the exclusion zones it's pretty reasonable to move up and grab civvies, especially now the first WIP check is easier too.

    We played it without the errata and it's pretty stupid easy for a powerful fireteam to run up grab 2 civvies and run away again while still gunning down every visible model on the table while they're at it.
     
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