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Summoning the Caliphate council for tournament tips

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  1. CalamarRojo

    CalamarRojo je veux être calife à la place du calife

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    In three weeks im going to have my first tournament. I only played against friends so my mind is blocked on how to prepare the tournament.

    The tournament is going to be its13 - 200 points / 4 CAP with an specops with 12 px. I can bring 2 lists.

    The missions are:
    1. Quadrant control
    2. Panic room
    3. Highly classified

    I want to play Qapu Khalki, is what i most have and painted. I was thinking in a list with scarface and specialists for the mission 1 and 3 and a strong fireteam for the mission 2..... and thats everything i have right now......
    Any advice is wellcome, what is the meta? What should i avoid? Any lists from other tournaments you played?.... Thanks!
     
  2. CalamarRojo

    CalamarRojo je veux être calife à la place du calife

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    My first list,

    Torneo1
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    [​IMG]9 [​IMG]2 [​IMG]1
    SCARFACE Loadout Gamma & CORDELIA TURNER undefined / undefined. (1.5 | 81)
    [​IMG] SCARFACE Loadout Gamma AP Spitfire(+1B), Panzerfaust / DA CC Weapon. (1.5 | 64)
    [​IMG] SCARFACE Boarding Shotgun, Grenades / Pistol, Shock CC Weapon. (- | 0)
    [​IMG] CORDELIA TURNER Combi Rifle, Chain-colt, D-Charges / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 17)
    GHULAM (Lieutenant) Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 11)
    ALGUACIL (Paramedic) Combi Rifle ( | MediKit) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 12)
    ALGUACIL Missile Launcher / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 15)
    LEILA SHARIF (Hacker) Shock Marksman Rifle, E/M Mines, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 20)
    HAFZA HUSAM (Infinity Spec-Ops) (CC:14, BS:12, PH:10, WIP:14, ARM:5, W:2, Hacking Device(Hacker), Mimetism(-3), Boarding Shotgun) Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 16)
    HAWWA' (Hacker, Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 26)
    YUAN YUAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 8)
    GHULAM Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 11)

    3.5 SWC | 200 Points

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  3. KedzioR_vo

    KedzioR_vo Well-Known Member
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    I haven't played QK in N4 and to be honest I didn't play them much in the last times of N3. Still I loved Scarface and as much as I understand wanting him in the list I think that you have to be aware, that this is a risky business. His cost is over a quarter of your army and his loss will hurt you. And he is good, rather tough, but as your main attack piece he will have to advance, fight and definitely will be in danger.
    And if you won't be the active player than only ARO I see is that ML Alguacil and Scarface with Panzerfaust? For me it's a bit too little to try to stop the enemy.
    Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying that you shouldn't try Scarface, just know that it can be a bit of a trap.

    About the rest - I really don't understand the idea behind your SpecOps. Mimetism on Holomask guy? And higher ARM on a Hacker? And Boarding Shotgun while you have the Light Shotgun? All of those are weird choices for me, don't fit together.
    It's a little weird to me that you play 200pts and have 12 XP SpecOps, they can be really beastly (Fusilier with Mimetism -6 Feuerbach, Muyib BTS 9 Bio/Total-Immunity).

    And in the end, I'm not yet very familiar with ITS 13 and the missions you're going to play, but from what I can remember any of those missions is good for your armylist - and conversely.


    PozdRawiam / Greetings
     
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  4. CalamarRojo

    CalamarRojo je veux être calife à la place du calife

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    Thanks, this is the kind of things i expected when i open the post :)

    I will drop scarface for something else. I never played with specops, im a newbie, but im limited to hafzas for that no? :/.

    I don't know why the hafza specos is showing that arm.. With 12 points i just choose some equip and done
     
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  5. Cadwallon

    Cadwallon Well-Known Member

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    I didn't play n4, but if I have to do a Specs Ops with the requeriment you post, I suggest this:

    Screenshot_2021-11-05-22-18-38-656_com.infinityarmy.jpg

    Hope this helps.
     
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  6. CalamarRojo

    CalamarRojo je veux être calife à la place du calife

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    Cool thanks! I need to replanned my ideas a lot :P
     
  7. Cadwallon

    Cadwallon Well-Known Member

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    I choose a hacker because you choose it, so It became framework to start.
    Then upgrade Will, because It IS main attribute for hacker, and bts for protecting him from hacker attacks.

    Then choose veteran for him, because It becomes inmune to isolated state (one hacker programm males you isolated).

    And for the last point i choose D-charges, because can help to make some secondaries missions.

    Hope this helps. Main thing with Specs OPS us knowing what you want your character mission and built around It.

    Cheers.
     
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  8. Urobros

    Urobros Well-Known Member

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    Hello,

    good luck!! About the list you posted I found it really playable. I will do a couple suggestions. I'm more for "multitool and surpresive SpecOps". While the one proposded by @Cadwallon is stronger, the one I bring to you is "unexpected".

    Weapons: stunn pistol... with burst 3 you will capable to stop heavy targets.
    D-charges... for objetives pourpouses. Too to kill some targets after they were stunned.
    Viral.
    Minelayer+Forward Deployment+10. This wi help to.take control of some quadrant, too to hide your yuan yan. The mine, thanks to the FW and holormask, can be "a second alhawa".
    Hacker... for objective scored.
    Viral CC weapon... we have to put one point in use to catch the 12pX.

    another change is one hafza hrl instead of the ML alguacil, why? Because you can deploy the hafza as a "plain ghulam snipper" son you could have a heavy weapo with template option.
    7 pointsnREM (mime/flash pulse) because.the hfza is 2 points more.than the alguacil.

    I advice you to take a look to the azrail, to 200.matches ir could be interesting.
     
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  9. CalamarRojo

    CalamarRojo je veux être calife à la place du calife

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    Yah thank you so much for the ideas.
    Im working now in a list changing Scarface for a Azrail hmg ap...or feurbach.. But i dont know yet witch one and what to do with the other points... Maybe squeezing a Haris of djanzaban with wild cards (for example with the specos)

    About the specos, thanks for the great ideas. A question about him... How to take the best of the holo? :/ (n00b here)

    Also i was thinking in the specos with chain of command, my only way of having this skill, and using an aggressive lieutenant... But them i saw i dont have anything like that :/ as an aggressive lieutenant
     
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  10. Urobros

    Urobros Well-Known Member

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    Sadly your most "powerfull" lt is the "hafza spitfire". In a fireteam it could work as "spearhead", but maybe isn't so powerfull to justify the CoC in the SpecOps.

    About the Azrail... maybe "another one", two of them still are cheaper than scarface ;) but maybe you can't do it because the SWC restriction. You have an interesting profile with no SWC, the djambazan marskman rifle (shock version).
     
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    CalamarRojo je veux être calife à la place du calife

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    For the moment, i have this one to test it in the scenarios "Quadrants" and "Highly classified"


    Lista1.5
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    AZRA'IL AP Heavy Machine Gun / Heavy Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 40)
    HAWWA' (Hacker, Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 26)
    GHULAM (Lieutenant) Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 11)
    GHULAM Sniper Rifle / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 16)
    ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 10)
    ALGUACIL (Paramedic) Combi Rifle ( | MediKit) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 12)
    HAFZA Heavy Rocket Launcher / Assault Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 17)
    SEKBAN (Specialist Operative) AP Rifle, Chain-colt(+1B) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 24)
    LEILA SHARIF (Hacker) Shock Marksman Rifle, E/M Mines, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 20)
    HAFZA HUSAM (Infinity Spec-Ops) (WIP:15, Doctor(+3), Minelayer(Shock Mines), E/Marat, D-Charges, Stun Pistol) Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 16)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]1 [​IMG]1
    YUAN YUAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 8)

    4 SWC | 200 Points

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  12. CalamarRojo

    CalamarRojo je veux être calife à la place du calife

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    For the panic room i had 3 options.....

    Option 1 Haris Kaplan y Core Djanza:

    kaplanplan
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    KAPLAN Spitfire / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1 | 28)
    WILD BILL Contender / MULTI Pistol(+1B), CC Weapon. (0 | 22)
    ROUHANI Submachine Gun, Flash Pulse / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 21)
    HAFZA HUSAM (Infinity Spec-Ops) Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 16)
    YUAN YUAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 8)
    LEILA SHARIF (Hacker) Shock Marksman Rifle, E/M Mines, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 20)
    DJANBAZAN Heavy Machine Gun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 34)
    HAFZA Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 15)
    GHULAM Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 11)
    DJANBAZAN (Lieutenant) Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1 | 25)

    3.5 SWC | 200 Points

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    Option 2, Druze team and mobile brigada lieutenant, using the specops as chain of command:

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    MOBILE BRIGADA (Lieutenant) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 32)
    DRUZE Combi Rifle, Chain-colt, Panzerfaust / Viral Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 25)
    DRUZE Heavy Machine Gun, Chain-colt / Viral Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 31)
    ROUHANI Submachine Gun, Flash Pulse / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 21)
    LEILA SHARIF (Hacker) Shock Marksman Rifle, E/M Mines, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 20)
    FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 7)
    FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 7)
    HAFZA HUSAM (Infinity Spec-Ops) (Chain of Command, Minelayer(Shock Mines), Viral Pistol) Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 16)
    YUAN YUAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 8)
    DRUZE (Hacker, Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Pitcher, D-Charges ( ) / Viral Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 30)

    2 SWC | 197 Points

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    Option 3, similar to option 2, but with kaplans, wild bill, mobile brigada y 2 yuanyuans.


    kaplanbrigda
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]9 [​IMG]1 [​IMG]1
    MOBILE BRIGADA (Lieutenant) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 32)
    KAPLAN MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 29)
    KAPLAN Spitfire / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1 | 28)
    WILD BILL Contender / MULTI Pistol(+1B), CC Weapon. (0 | 22)
    ROUHANI Submachine Gun, Flash Pulse / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 21)
    LEILA SHARIF (Hacker) Shock Marksman Rifle, E/M Mines, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 20)
    HAFZA HUSAM (Infinity Spec-Ops) (Chain of Command, Minelayer(Shock Mines), Viral Pistol) Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 16)
    YUAN YUAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 8)
    FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 7)
    FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 7)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]1 [​IMG]1
    YUAN YUAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 8)

    2.5 SWC | 198 Points

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    Urobros Well-Known Member

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    I couldn't say which one like it more. Maybe the number one, "kaplanplan" (i feel like "Picard" talking in "klingon", almost the same as "kaplah"). Mimetism is always so good choice.
     
  14. CalamarRojo

    CalamarRojo je veux être calife à la place du calife

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    Qatlho' yIntaHbogh qagh jablu'DI' reH nIvqu' qagh.

    Cool, cool cool

    Will work around that one :)
     
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    Urobros Well-Known Member

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    I was thinking on your lists, the last trio, and how do you do to face a heavy enemy like a TAG. It isn't strange that some player bring to the table a TAG unit: a double or nothing list and I believe you have tools: "yuan-yan", e/m mines from Leila, template weapons... :)

    Don't get mad triying to do a list to "put down" a TAG, it could be hard to do it and continue pushing buttons, but keep in mind that you could be facing a TAG and think how do you "face" the situation. "Be ready".
     
  16. AssaultUnicorn

    AssaultUnicorn KTS is the best unit

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    @CalamarRojo I also like the first list, but I wonder if you really have to use Djanbazan Lt over a Hafza Lt? That could also free up some points for a DJ sniper, even if that sniper is perched upon a rooftop without a link. Panic Room means that no one is likely to sneak up on you or flank you: what you see on the table is what you get. That's why pinning down your opponent's DZ is so useful on that mission, ignoring the Smoke is also a bonus. Also, even if DJ dies – he can immediately regenerate back up on 13s, meaning he might be able to last until the very end of the game without having to move out of the DZ.

    Wild Bill+Kaplan Haris is absolutely awesome for this mission, especially for clearing stuff out of the panic room itself.
     
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    CalamarRojo je veux être calife à la place du calife

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    My idea was that, to use regeneration on the LT too... but cool, i can try to squeeze that sniper doing the change

    EDIT: im 6 points over.... djan lt -> djan sniper, 6 points over .. hafza -> hafza lt same cost. Was trying to add an extra hafza to reduce costs, but cant link with the kaplans


    I didnt choose any skills for the specops, i can turn him in a hacker.... and have some ap weapons like the smgs... but maybe the specop can be that tool.
     
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    Urobros Well-Known Member

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    It coul be interesting swap the djambzan for a hafza as @AssaultUnicorn said, even with the SWC spare you could add the spitfire one.
     
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    CalamarRojo je veux être calife à la place du calife

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    So you mean something like this....

    kaplanplan
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]9 [​IMG]1 [​IMG]1
    KAPLAN Spitfire / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1 | 28)
    WILD BILL Contender / MULTI Pistol(+1B), CC Weapon. (0 | 22)
    ROUHANI Submachine Gun, Flash Pulse / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 21)
    HAFZA HUSAM (Infinity Spec-Ops) Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 16)
    YUAN YUAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 8)
    LEILA SHARIF (Hacker) Shock Marksman Rifle, E/M Mines, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 20)
    DJANBAZAN Heavy Machine Gun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 34)
    HAFZA Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 15)
    GHULAM Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 11)
    HAFZA (Lieutenant) Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 15)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]1 [​IMG]1
    YUAN YUAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 8)

    2.5 SWC | 198 Points

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    Or lt spitfire and ... warcor

    The specops can be something like this.... i wanted to make it veteran... but also want those mines... what to do?

    upload_2021-11-12_11-45-4.png
     
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  20. Urobros

    Urobros Well-Known Member

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    Both are really good, but I had in mind something like the "spitfire+warcor" :)
     
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