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Steel Phalanx in Firefight

Discussion in 'ALEPH' started by Bruno Braga, May 3, 2019.

  1. Bruno Braga

    Bruno Braga Well-Known Member

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    Hey guys!

    So coming up in a few weeks is gonna be my FLGS's third Infinity tournament and we're gonna be playing 3 different missions; Firefight, Capture and Protect, and Quadrant Control. Whilst I'm still deciding on a list that works for both CaP and QC, I think I've settled on the list I'll be bringing for the Firefight mission.


    Steel Phalanx
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10 [​IMG]2
    AJAX 2 Combi Rifles, Nanopulser / AP Heavy Pistol, EXP CCW. (0 | 39)
    MYRMIDON OFFICER Lieutenant Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser, Eclipse Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0.5 | 30)
    MYRMIDON Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 25)
    MYRMIDON Chain Rifle, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 16)
    PHOENIX Heavy Rocket Launcher, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Heavy Pistol, DA CCW. (2 | 40)
    EUDOROS Mk12, Nanopulser, Eclipse Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 40)
    MYRMIDON Chain Rifle, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 16)
    MYRMIDON Chain Rifle, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 16)
    TEUCER (Multispectral Visor L2) Feuerbach, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 48)
    AGÊMA Marksman Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 27)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]1
    WARCOR (360º Visor) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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    Hopefull I can get some feedback on this list. I feel like it really packs a punch with the two Myrmidon Eno links, with Teucer and an Agema Marksman providing sniper backup.

    Do you think this list has what it needs?
     
  2. pedrogzc

    pedrogzc Well-Known Member

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    It's firefight!

    CMon and team up our golden boy Diomedes!

    He is a PITA or a KITG appearing in the back line with his blazing mk12



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  3. Bruno Braga

    Bruno Braga Well-Known Member

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    PITA or KITG? Unsure what those mean haha

    Is he a better investment than Teucer though?
     
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  4. pedrogzc

    pedrogzc Well-Known Member

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    Pain in the ass, kick in the groin :)



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  5. Bruno Braga

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    Steel Phalanx
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10 [​IMG]2
    AJAX 2 Combi Rifles, Nanopulser / AP Heavy Pistol, EXP CCW. (0 | 39)
    MYRMIDON Spitfire, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (1 | 31)
    MYRMIDON Chain Rifle, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 16)
    MYRMIDON Chain Rifle, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 16)
    PHOENIX Heavy Rocket Launcher, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Heavy Pistol, DA CCW. (2 | 40)
    EUDOROS Mk12, Nanopulser, Eclipse Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 40)
    MYRMIDON Chain Rifle, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 16)
    MYRMIDON Chain Rifle, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 16)
    ATALANTA MULTI Sniper Rifle + TinBot E (Spotter) / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 39)
    DIOMEDES Lieutenant Mk12, Nanopulser / Assault Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 43)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]1
    WARCOR (360º Visor) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)

    4.5 SWC | 299 Points

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    How's a change up like this? Dropping Teucer and the Agema for Diomedes Lt and Atlanta as the sniper/MSV2 backup to go with the smoke?
     
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  6. pedrogzc

    pedrogzc Well-Known Member

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    Let me suggest you this list

    Falange de Acero──────────────────────────────────────────────────[​IMG]10 [​IMG]1 FÉNIX Lanzacohetes Pesado, Nanopulser, Granadas de Humo / Pistola Pesada, Arma CC DA. (2 | 40) MACAÓN Teniente Fusil Combi, Nanopulser, Granadas Eclipse / Pistola, Arma CC DA. (0.5 | 38) EUDORO Mk12, Nanopulser, Granadas Eclipse / Pistola, Arma CC DA. (0 | 40) MIRMIDÓN Chain Rifle, Nanopulser, Granadas de Humo / Pistola, Arma CC AP. (0 | 16) OFICIAL MIRMIDÓN (Cadena de Mando) Escopeta de Abordaje, Nanopulser, Granadas Eclipse / Pistola, Arma CC AP. (1 | 35) MIRMIDÓN Chain Rifle, Nanopulser, Granadas de Humo / Pistola, Arma CC AP. (0 | 16) MIRMIDÓN Chain Rifle, Nanopulser, Granadas de Humo / Pistola, Arma CC AP. (0 | 16) DIOMEDES Mk12, Nanopulser / Pistola de Asalto, Arma CC DA. (0 | 43) Tirador AGÊMA Lanzamisiles / Pistola, Cuchillo. (1.5 | 27) MIRMIDÓN Fusil Combi, Nanopulser, Granadas de Humo / Pistola, Arma CC DA. (0 | 26) 5 CAP | 297 PuntosAbrir en Infinity Army

    You can fix it with either Ajax instead of Eudoros and or Agema sniper instead of missile launcher.

    Don't use the spare points to fill in another combat group or the enemy would cut you 2 orders in case you'll have the initiative


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  7. pedrogzc

    pedrogzc Well-Known Member

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    And don't use Diomedes as lieutenant :) because of so, he has to deploy in table or you will be in loss of lieutenant since the beginning

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  8. Bruno Braga

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    Is the CoC worth the extra specialist troop in this case?

    Regarding the second combat group, I couldn't find clarification on what the interaction is between the Command Tokens and combat groups? I'll take any help I can get since I'm still quite new haha
     
  9. Bruno Braga

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    Why is that even an option then?! Haha
     
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    pedrogzc Well-Known Member

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    If you only have a combat group, the opponent can't use a command token to drain you two orders at the beginning of the game.

    The CoC is crucial to let Machaon (our best lieutenant) be a bit wild... You will learn a single combi rifle in the hands of a BS12 plus ODD guy... Kills. Also you have NWI plus will14 specialist plus eclipse grenades and a boarding shotgun.... I can't remember how many times she has saved my ass.

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  11. Nenyx

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    http://infinitythewiki.com/en/Command_Tokens
    Look at the strategic use (ie: at the start of the game)
    The player who play second can use one command token to remove 2 orders to his opponent.
    There are 2 ways to limit this:
    1. http://infinitythewiki.com/en/Counterintelligence (but Steel Phalanx doesn't have it)
    2. The "Reduced combat group" rule from ITS10: (page 10)
    REDUCED COMBAT GROUPS
    In all Season 10 tournament modes, any Army List possessing only one Combat Group will be not affected by the Strategic Use of the Command Tokens which nullifies two Orders from the Order Pool.

    I do agree that it's a bit troublesome to have these rules in different places
     
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  12. Bruno Braga

    Bruno Braga Well-Known Member

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    Thank you! I couldn't find that anywhere but I did recall hearing about it. I really appreaciate this.
     
  13. Bruno Braga

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    I do agree, Machaon is such a good lieutenant. I'm just hesistant about bringing a Doctor to a firefight but yeah I've used him to snipe a Ratnik from across the board with a super lucky crit on 2!

    I'll see what I can do with this advice!
     
  14. Minos

    Minos Νίκη ἢ Θάνατος

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    Machaon is good, no matter what he does. WIP 15 LTN, possibility to heal buddies (good in Firefight if you raise up costly troopers). There is also 2 classified objectives. You already have good killers.
     
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    Plus he brings some eclipses. It's always good to have :)
     
  16. ZlaKhon

    ZlaKhon New scale enthusiast

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    Edit: deleted, made the same point about single combat group
     
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  17. Bruno Braga

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    Definitely dropping the Warcor after the confirmation!

    I still really want to include Teucer plus the Missile Launcher Agema to deal with opposing fireteams that I know will be present, such as one of our Ariadna players fielding two fireteams featuring Vet Kazaks, and our two Yu Jing both fielding Immediate Action Units!

    So I'm thinking something more like this:


    Steel Team Firefight
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    [​IMG]10 [​IMG]2
    AJAX 2 Combi Rifles, Nanopulser / AP Heavy Pistol, EXP CCW. (0 | 39)
    MACHAON Lieutenant Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, Eclipse Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0.5 | 38)
    MYRMIDON Chain Rifle, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 16)
    MYRMIDON Chain Rifle, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 16)
    PHOENIX Heavy Rocket Launcher, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Heavy Pistol, DA CCW. (2 | 40)
    EUDOROS Mk12, Nanopulser, Eclipse Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 40)
    MYRMIDON Chain Rifle, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 16)
    MYRMIDON Chain Rifle, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 16)
    TEUCER (Multispectral Visor L2) Feuerbach, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 48)
    AGÊMA Marksman Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 27)

    6 SWC | 296 Points

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  18. ZlaKhon

    ZlaKhon New scale enthusiast

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    Two Myrmidon links and two Agemas is definitely a strong list. My advice would be to play that kind of setups for a while and find the specific composition of units that you like best. These type of lists work for pretty much all missions, so you can practice with them without any limitations. I personally like to take a MSR Agema and and a Mk12 Agema, but there are many viable options.
     
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  19. Minos

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    I would play Machaon with Phoenix as he is more likely to fall than Ajax.
    The end of the list is a matter of taste. I do like Teucer, as he is over other Agêmas thanks to NWI, Climbing+ and nanopulser. And Marksmanship LX can be ace. I prefer Agêma MSR over ML because of the Burst 2. Don't forget the Season X Forward Deployment L1 on Medium Infantry!
     
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  20. Bruno Braga

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    The original list included that actually. But when I was playing Teucer in vanilla a few months ago when I started, I adored him and my friends feared him, as they’ve now learned to fear the Myrmidons!! So I really wanted to include them as my long range support.


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