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Starter 300 point Bakunin army

Discussion in 'Nomads' started by jikitotem, Apr 8, 2018.

  1. jikitotem

    jikitotem New Member

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    Hey all, I am just starting to play infinity and trying to get an idea if something like this would work?

    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] REVEREND CUSTODIER Hacker (Assault Device Plus UPGRADE: Icebreaker) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 32)
    [​IMG] KUSANAGI Spitfire / Pistol, Shock CCW. (2 | 43)
    [​IMG] REVEREND HEALER Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, EXP CCW. (0 | 33)
    [​IMG] RIOT GRRL Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 34)
    [​IMG] RIOT GRRL MULTI Rifle, Stun Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 32)
    [​IMG] RIOT GRRL Boarding Shotgun, Stun Grenades + TinBot B (Deflector L2) / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
    [​IMG] RIOT GRRL Combi Rifle, Blitzen, Stun Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 29)
    [​IMG] MODERATOR Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 17)
    [​IMG] MODERATOR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    [​IMG] TSYKLON Spitfire, Pitcher / Electric Pulse. (1 | 31)

    6 SWC | 290 Points

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    Admittedly I like the models I have here but I feel that maybe I got to many units that would need orders? Should I maybe stick with either one of the riot grrl links, Casandra link or Tsyklon and fill out with some cheaper units? Let me know what you all think.
     
  2. Raghart

    Raghart Well-Known Member
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    Hi! It's a perfectly playable list, very aggressive, but pretty risky outside Limited Insertion games.
    Working with two linked teams, you will not feel that much the lack of orders, as they can advance quickly once things start to go down, and the riots are good surviving. But there are several problems with your choice:

    - There are no long-range weapons (aside spitfires, which are middle-range)
    - Your core link team lacks a Specialist.
    - ¿Moderator HACKER? Man, that is such a bad idea.

    [​IMG] Ragh-choice
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    [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] REVEREND CUSTODIER Hacker (Assault Device Plus UPGRADE: Icebreaker) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 32)
    [​IMG] REVEREND HEALER Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, EXP CCW. (0 | 32)
    [​IMG] KUSANAGI Lieutenant Spitfire / Pistol, Shock CCW. (2 | 43)
    [​IMG] RIOT GRRL Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 34)
    [​IMG] RIOT GRRL Boarding Shotgun, Stun Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
    [​IMG] RIOT GRRL Combi Rifle, Blitzen, Stun Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 29)
    [​IMG] RIOT GRRL (Specialist Operative) Combi Rifle, Blitzen, Stun Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
    [​IMG] ZOE & PI-WELL . (0 | 47)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] ZOE (Hacking Device. UPGRADE: Stop!) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 28)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] PI-WELL Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 19)
    [​IMG] REAKTION ZOND HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26)

    5.5 SWC | 300 Points

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    We have to make some sacrifices, (Tinbot B, and Multirifle on the Riot) but there are several bonuses:
    - A specialist troop with high movility and DDO (Pi-Well, and his access to Sensor and Triangulated shoot are not to look down)
    - A Hacker/Engineer (Zoe) she alone can do lots of classified objectives by herself, and those she cannot, pi-well and the Reverend Healer can.
    - A Riot Specialist. Not great, but this way you can advance your main link and push buttons. And they are quicker than the Reverends.
    - A longer range weapon that works both in active and reactive turn (Reaktion zond) it's not a Tsyklon, but i think there are enough good troops with spitfire.

    ¿More things that i miss? Fifth member to the link team (That +3 to shooting is just sweet, and the riot with Missile Launcher is really nice) and custodier hacker plus (not very fond of Assault, only run her if i have the other already) so i would end tinkering a bit more with the list.
    Also, remember that for some time Kusanagi will not be able to be used on ITS tournaments.
     
  3. jikitotem

    jikitotem New Member

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    Thanks for the help. I will see if I can figure out a way to get a 5th riot grrl in here or maybe go with just three of them instead? Also I haven't heard of Kusanagi not being able to be used in ITS tournaments. When does that go into affect? Maybe ill take that group apart and think of something else to replace it.
     
  4. Raghart

    Raghart Well-Known Member
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    It was due to the B4ckD00r challenge, you can take a look here.

    I think it will be only a couple of months before she can be played again, so you will be able to play her soon ;)
     
  5. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    I'd do it more like this, unless you were specifically looking for Limited Insertion.

    [​IMG] Ragh-choice
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]9 [​IMG]1 [​IMG]1
    [​IMG] REVEREND CUSTODIER Hacker (Assault Device Plus UPGRADE: Icebreaker) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 32)
    [​IMG] KUSANAGI Spitfire / Pistol, Shock CCW. (2 | 43)
    [​IMG] REVEREND HEALER Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, EXP CCW. (0 | 32)
    [​IMG] RIOT GRRL Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 33)
    [​IMG] RIOT GRRL Boarding Shotgun, Stun Grenades + TinBot B (Deflector L2) / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
    [​IMG] RIOT GRRL (Specialist Operative) Combi Rifle, Blitzen, Stun Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
    [​IMG] REAKTION ZOND HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26)
    [​IMG] CLOCKMAKER Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18)
    [​IMG] ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] MODERATOR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    [​IMG] BAKUNIN ÜBERFALLKOMMANDO undefined. (0 | 23)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] CHIMERA Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, Eclipse Grenades / Viral CCW. (0 | 20)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] x3 PUPNIK DA CCW. (0 | 3)
    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]1 [​IMG]2 [​IMG]2
    [​IMG] MODERATOR Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    [​IMG] MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 6)
    [​IMG] MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 6)
    5.5 SWC | 300 PointsOpen in Infinity Army

    But you can also do this.

    [​IMG] Ragh-choice
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]9 [​IMG]1 [​IMG]1
    [​IMG] KUSANAGI MULTI Rifle + Light Flamethrower, E/M Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 44)
    [​IMG] REVEREND CUSTODIER Hacker (Assault Device Plus UPGRADE: Icebreaker) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 32)
    [​IMG] REVEREND HEALER Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, EXP CCW. (0 | 32)
    [​IMG] RIOT GRRL Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 33)
    [​IMG] RIOT GRRL Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 34)
    [​IMG] RIOT GRRL Boarding Shotgun, Stun Grenades + TinBot B (Deflector L2) / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
    [​IMG] RIOT GRRL (Specialist Operative) Combi Rifle, Blitzen, Stun Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
    [​IMG] RIOT GRRL Boarding Shotgun, Stun Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
    [​IMG] MODERATOR Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    [​IMG] MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Assault Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 8)
    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]1 [​IMG]2 [​IMG]2
    [​IMG] MODERATOR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    [​IMG] MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 6)
    [​IMG] MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 6)
    4.5 SWC | 300 Points
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    You can still run that without Kusanagi, its just slightly less effective, but would still do very well in a specialist heavy mission.

    [​IMG] Ragh-choice
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] REVEREND CUSTODIER Hacker (Assault Device Plus UPGRADE: Icebreaker) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 32)
    [​IMG] REVEREND CUSTODIER Hacker (Assault Device Plus UPGRADE: Icebreaker) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 32)
    [​IMG] REVEREND HEALER Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, EXP CCW. (0 | 32)
    [​IMG] RIOT GRRL Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 33)
    [​IMG] RIOT GRRL Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 34)
    [​IMG] RIOT GRRL Boarding Shotgun, Stun Grenades + TinBot B (Deflector L2) / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
    [​IMG] RIOT GRRL (Specialist Operative) Combi Rifle, Blitzen, Stun Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
    [​IMG] RIOT GRRL (Specialist Operative) Combi Rifle, Blitzen, Stun Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
    [​IMG] MODERATOR Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    [​IMG] DAKTARI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14
    )[​IMG] ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]1 [​IMG]2 [​IMG]2
    [​IMG] MODERATOR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    [​IMG] MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 6
    )[​IMG] MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 6)
    5 SWC | 300 PointsOpen in Infinity Army
     
    #5 inane.imp, Apr 8, 2018
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  6. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    That last list I mucked up. It should be the HD+ and the AHD rather than just 2 AHDs, you can get the points by dropping the Specialist Riot Grrl back to a BSG.

    Same with the first list: it should be a HD+. Drop the 3rd Morlock back to a EM/DA CCW and move it to the second order group.
     
  7. Rubberpiggy

    Rubberpiggy Well-Known Member

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    Playing one combat group might not be the most competitive, but if you are new to the game
    there is value in keeping it manageable. Bakunin has lots of oddball choices that you can start trying out once you feel comfortable with the basics.
     
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  8. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    Honestly I've got to disagree. The classic 2-4 Morlocks + 0-3 Regular orders as a second combat group gets you using Warbands and Smoke which is core to most Bakunin gameplay: it is easier to play Bakunin with that than without.
     
  9. loricus

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    I don't even give people links for the first few games.
     
  10. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    Oh, I'm with you with that. But once we're talking 300pt lists you've built yourself then it's all on.
     
  11. jikitotem

    jikitotem New Member

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    Thanks all for the help. I do appreciate it. After reading through this list and the sticky regarding the bakunin units I came up with this new list

    [​IMG] Riot!
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] RIOT GRRL Boarding Shotgun, Stun Grenades + TinBot B (Deflector L2) / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
    [​IMG] RIOT GRRL Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 33)
    [​IMG] RIOT GRRL Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 34)
    [​IMG] RIOT GRRL (Specialist Operative) Combi Rifle, Blitzen, Stun Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
    [​IMG] RIOT GRRL MULTI Rifle, Stun Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 32)
    [​IMG] REAKTION ZOND HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26)
    [​IMG] ZOE & PI-WELL . (0 | 47)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] ZOE (Hacking Device. UPGRADE: Stop!) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 28)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] PI-WELL Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 19)
    [​IMG] REVEREND CUSTODIER Hacker (Hacking Device Plus) Lieutenant Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 34)
    [​IMG] DAKTARI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]3 [​IMG]3
    [​IMG] MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, E/M CCW. (0 | 6)
    [​IMG] MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, E/M CCW. (0 | 6)
    [​IMG] MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 6)

    5.5 SWC | 298 Points

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    I decided to take out Kusanagi and reverend healer and replaced them with Daktari and Zoe and Pi-well. This also allowed me to create a 2nd group of Morlocks for smoke. Should I move either Daktari or the custodier to the 2nd group to give the morlocks another order or would this be ok? Regarding remotes. I believe its one hacker per remote or can one hacker control multiple remotes? If one hacker can control multiple remotes I may remove the custodier for another unit. As I do have 2 points leftover, Should I convert the multi rifle to maybe a special op riot grrl and take a warcor for another order?

    Thanks again for your feedback!
     
  12. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    1 Hacker all the Remotes :)

    Also, I notice that you have 2pts spare. CRAP Morlock is the answer (upgrade one of the Morlocks to the 8pt Assault Pistol one).
     
  13. Rubberpiggy

    Rubberpiggy Well-Known Member

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    I was making legal 300 pt lists long before I got a good grip on the game mechanics, since it's such a useful tool. But since we are looking at link teams and in the first list also linked hackers, then by all means go all in with combat groups, impeteous, metachemistry and smoke.
     
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