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Discussion in 'Dahshat Company' started by Space Ranger, Aug 12, 2019.

  1. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    t’s been a little dead here and I want to get some talk going.

    Since it’s been out and people have been playing them, what troop and profile has shown to be the “must have”, or “Love it”, unit?

    So far I’ve been more impressed with Bash Bozuk and Bounty Hunters. BB with Combi and E/Maulers in particular. I love being able to take down big expensive things with these cheap guys. For ABH, It’s the flexibility and the Acrylate Kanone that i love.
     
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  2. Kalendo

    Kalendo Well-Known Member

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    I started converting sniper bounty hunters but now am 100% smg and akrylyte.

    I don’t leave home without 2 Kum Bikers, 2 FO hunzakut, and 2 libertos both with mines if I can spare the points.

    It’s been about 5 games since I fielded a ruishi core, opting for the more maneuverable Harris.

    I really like applying pressure from as many angles as possible which is why I don’t mind fielding 6 -8 irregulars.

    I had retired my BB cause I was using the specialist to sneak last turn button pushes, but I may give emauler a go next game. Hunzakut is one of the most flexible pieces in the game, And easily beats BB at the role, but harassment.... that sounds fun!

    I never take tractor muls, I don’t know why I just don’t, you would think I would want the extra orders but I’d rather have everything able to do SOMETHING. I find the points for fanos.

    I wish I was taking rafiq more, one once won me a game.
     
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  3. RobertShepherd

    RobertShepherd Brisk antipodean

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    I don't think I have anything that's an absolute must have, outside of a couple libertos (any profile, including without mimetism if you absolutely must shave a point). I don't normally advocate automatically taking max AVA of units without at least thinking pretty carefully about it, but libertos give me an essential crumple zone against dedicated top of one attacks (bless their fishy hearts) which Dashat otherwise struggles to repel in a way that another faction might use warbands as corner guards or similar to handle.

    It also doesn't find its way into every list, but the more I play with it, the more I like a zhuyong core that abandons the rui shi as a link piece but includes both a HMG and shotgun zhuyong. The corner-turning power of a model hitting B3 BS22 and with the wounds to take reactive template hits just opens up some very powerful aggressive plays, and of course the HMG sweeps the ramparts and uses Tac Aware to help get you close. Miranda Ashcroft can sub in if you need the same capability and a specialist, but the zhuyong's robustness against things like chain rifles is my preference otherwise.

    Also firmly in the 'love it' (rather than 'must have') camp is the Katyusha traktor mul. With access to models like hunzakut forward observers, WIP14 hackers and possibly even a Rafiq red fury with EVO hacker for sat lock shenanigans if you want to go full meme, a very cheap SWC/spec fire platform is surprisingly viable to include. I haven't yet made a dedicated guided fire list work but I swear I'm just around the corner, honest, really (ok not really).

    To the surprise of nobody paying attention, a haris-linked or free-running Rui Shi is a powerful mobile attack piece, and McDoggo is an slightly costly but very, very capable assault or counterassault unit.

    Finally: I'm in the process of painting a Maghariba. I need a lot more time testing this to figure out whether it works, but I had some good results using it briefly in Ramah to shore up the sectorial's defensive deficiencies (ARM8 with three structure is just kinda hard to shift, especially if the meta has become maladaptive to TAGs). I've only had one game with it in Dashat but I'm hoping to duplicate some of that effect.

    Things I haven't had a chance to properly play yet, but want to:
    Bashis (only one game, with the emauler... against MAF)
    Zenchas
    3-4 Kum Bikers (ideally paired with aggro long range firepower to let the bikes run close)
    Al Fasid (the model is gorgeous and came with red veil, so it's getting at least one game at some point, but I have low expectations)
    Lu Duan (inexplicably not fielded one yet)
     
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  4. Kalendo

    Kalendo Well-Known Member

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    Oh man I forgot, Lu Duan is awesome, I have been aggressively throwing both Lu Duan and rui shi up the field (and dropping him out of his Harris after I drag him up and maybe do some damage.) and with my last order suppressive firing both of them, msv1 suppressive fire on a model with 2 holo echos and a heavy flamethrower makes people waste orders! Sure it goes down every game, but the psychological affect on the midfield is sweet, I didn’t take one last game and missed it sorely.

    My latest trick is liberto and hunzakut coordinated minelayers, they are all irregular with mines, say hello to 4-8 extra midfield mines turn 1, then recammo the hunzakuts, I wanted that button.
     
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  5. RobertShepherd

    RobertShepherd Brisk antipodean

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    Could you post a couple lists that use these elements?

    I typically prefer to split my skirmishers across combat groups, which rules out coordinating the libertos and hunzakuts, but lets me launch aggressive skirmisher attacks out of two separate combat groups. I think I prefer the flexibility (it also makes it harder for my opponents to effectively strip orders) but I'm interested to see how else it might be done.
     
  6. Kalendo

    Kalendo Well-Known Member

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    So this is sorta my core of aggressive Dashat, I try to always go first, even on missions that you shouldn’t like my last mission was hunting party... yuck... but I tried a different list for that too.

    I am Still tweaking the groups and make minor adjustments for the mission, I had to sacrifice 2 points so I took the mimetism off the libertos but I may switch to the 112 doctor later.

    First time posting a list from my iPad app hope this looks ok!

    [​IMG] Dahshat Company - Dashat All-comers (300/300 | 4.5/6)

    Group #1 | 10 Models | [​IMG] 5 [​IMG] 5 [​IMG] 1

    [​IMG] McMurrough Chain Rifle | Grenades, Smoke Grenades, Chain Rifle (2) / Templar CCW (AP+DA) (32)
    [​IMG] Dozer Engineer | Rifle, Pistol, D-Charges / Knife (13)
    [​IMG] Ghulam Doctor | Doctor Plus, MediKit, Rifle, Light Shotgun, Pistol / Knife (16)
    [​IMG] Ghulam Lieutenant | Lieutenant, Rifle, Light Shotgun, Pistol / Knife (12)
    [​IMG] Nasmat Servant | Electric Pulse (3)
    [​IMG] Fanous Repeater | Flash Pulse / Electric Pulse (8)
    [​IMG] Fanous Repeater | Flash Pulse / Electric Pulse (8)
    [​IMG] Hunzakut Observer+Repeater | Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater, Antipersonnel Mines, Rifle, Light Shotgun, Pistol / Knife (18)
    [​IMG] Hunzakut Observer+Repeater | Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater, Antipersonnel Mines, Rifle, Light Shotgun, Pistol / Knife (18)
    [​IMG] Liberto Minelayer | Minelayer, Light Shotgun, Chain-Colt, Antipersonnel Mines, Pistol / Knife (10)
    [​IMG] Liberto Minelayer | Minelayer, Light Shotgun, Chain-Colt, Antipersonnel Mines, Pistol / Knife (10)

    Group #2 | 9 Models | [​IMG] 7 [​IMG] 2 [​IMG] 2

    [​IMG] Kum Chain Rifle | Smoke Grenades, Chain Rifle, Pistol, Smoke Light Grenade Launcher / AP CCW (10)
    [​IMG] Kum Chain Rifle | Smoke Grenades, Chain Rifle, Pistol, Smoke Light Grenade Launcher / AP CCW (10)
    [​IMG] Lù Duān Mk12 | Mk12, Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse (21)
    [​IMG] Zúyong Haris Deflector | Fireteam: Haris, Tactical Awareness, TinBot B (Deflector L2), Combi Rifle, Breaker Pistol (2) / Knife (34)
    [​IMG] Rui Shi Spitfire | Spitfire / Electric Pulse (20)
    [​IMG] Valerya Gromoz Hacker | Combi Rifle, Pitcher, Pistol / Knife (21)
    [​IMG] Bounty Hunter SMG | Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone, Breaker Pistol / Knife (12)
    [​IMG] Bounty Hunter SMG | Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone, Breaker Pistol / Knife (12)
    [​IMG] Bounty Hunter SMG | Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone, Breaker Pistol / Knife (12)

    [​IMG] Open in MayaNet

    The second group is for flexing, if I don’t think the hunzakuts can get the objectives done then I make a core with Valeria, opt in or out the ruishi depends on the scenario.

    I am quite happy with how this plays for me, but as I say I am aggressive and reckless....ish
     
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  7. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    I forgot about the Rafiq! I really like it with the Red Fury. I will sometimes have it in a duo with an ABH for some order efficiency. I think it gets overshadowed by the Rui Shi. It’s a great tool box remote with an upgraded gun. Those 2 points more than a Rui Shi is worth all of the other things it can do. Don’t forget it can be modded by a hacker and can get Overclock.
     
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  8. Kalendo

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    I feel like the rafiq shouldn't be taken because you intend to gunfight with him, he should be taken for the sensor, forward observer, evo shenanigans. The only time hes ever won a f2f for me is with his light shotgun, but a 6-4 regular specialist with other tools? yeah I can get behind that... although 112 bike is my current "can I make this work" cause an 8-4 smoke launcher regular specialist is even better!
     
  9. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    But 1 SWC! Yikes.
     
  10. Kalendo

    Kalendo Well-Known Member

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    yes, but if you see my list above I tend to run 4.5swc at all times and that's WITH two minelayer libertos.

    back on topic I do wanna try and make a defensive dashat list as a second list for tournaments, like maybe try out that zuyong shotgun core without rui shi In it...
     
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  11. SuperD

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    I've basically used the same list for every game with Dashat so far. No surprises here, the libertos and Mcmurrough for first turn carnage. After that there's a Haris with HMG and Miranda and if they get stopped, the defensive core of glue guns is perfectly happy to shed a few members and advance with a second HMG plus specialist. The lone hunzakut is just there for button pushing or a repeater. I've thought about subbing in a unique piece like an Al Fasid or Zencha but the core of the list below is just so darn effective. The same goes for irregular troops like BB or Kum bikers. In any other list they would be great but when compared against the liberto...

    Dahshat Company
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]8 [​IMG]2 [​IMG]1
    McMURROUGH 2 Chain Rifles, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / Templar CCW (AP + DA). (0 | 32)
    ZÚYǑNG Lieutenant (AutomediKit) HMG / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (1 | 39)
    VALERYA GROMOZ Hacker (Hacking Device UPGRADE: Expel) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
    BOUNTY HUNTER Sniper Rifle / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
    BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    LIBERTO (CH: Mimetism, Minelayer) Light Shotgun, Chain-colt, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 11)
    FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]3 [​IMG]2
    LIBERTO (CH: Mimetism, Minelayer) Light Shotgun, Chain-colt, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 11)
    ZÚYŎNG (Tactical Awareness) HMG / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (1.5 | 38)
    MIRANDA ASHCROFT Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Knife. (0 | 23)
    ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Haris, Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle + 1 TinBot B (Deflector L2) / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5 | 34)
    HUNZAKUT (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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  12. Joametz

    Joametz Chinese Empire in Space enthusiast

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    I love to take a Red Fury Bounty Hunter in a Zuyong Haris team. Sometimes I take the Zuyong HMG TA along for the ride, but usually the other spot has Miranda BSG or Valerya (mostly MIranda because TO KHDs are scary AF).
     
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  13. Kalendo

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    I have a biotechvore game next week and I was trying to build a limited insertion list, I noticed that the zuyong missile launcher has a light shotgun, that's some 2 for one deals! I'm gonna try it next game.
     
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    I started including the BSG zhuyong for exactly that reason actually - a spec ops event let me experiment with a different SWC kit which afforded the missile launcher zhuyong, and then halfway through the game he was halfway to the enemy DZ gunning down people around corners.

    I decided it was something I wanted more of in my life :P
     
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    I think I finally wrote a list that fits a Katyusha and might reasonably expect to use it from time to time without it being some meme force-it-every-game-it'll-be-great malarkey:

    Iron Rain
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]9 [​IMG]1 [​IMG]1
    ZÚYŎNG (Tactical Awareness) HMG / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (1.5 | 38)
    ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Haris, Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle + 1 TinBot B (Deflector L2) / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5 | 34)
    RUI SHI Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 20)
    BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    VALERYA GROMOZ Hacker (Hacking Device UPGRADE: Expel) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
    GHULAM Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    McMURROUGH 2 Chain Rifles, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / Templar CCW (AP + DA). (0 | 32)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]6 [​IMG]4
    HUNZAKUT (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18)
    LIBERTO (CH: Mimetism) Submachine Gun, Chain-colt, D.E.P. / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9)
    LIBERTO (CH: Mimetism, Minelayer) Light Shotgun, Chain-colt, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 11)
    WARCOR (360º Visor) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)
    FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    DOZER (Traktor Mul Control Device) Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    TRAKTOR MUL Katyusha MRL / Electric Pulse. (1 | 11)
    TRAKTOR MUL (Minesweeper) Electric Pulse. (0 | 5)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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  17. Space Ranger

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    I hope they come out with an ABH with SMG at some point. I highly doubt they will come out with multiple ones though :stuck_out_tongue:
     
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    Joametz Chinese Empire in Space enthusiast

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    We'll have to take 4 blisters of those for sure, lol.
     
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    Unfortunately they will be something you can only get in a tournament or some stupid thing like that! :unamused:
     
  20. Kalendo

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    as @Space Ranger pointed out to me in a conversion thread, any infantry box with combis makes a great ABH box for dashat, I converted 3 out of the second half of my red veil box, you can trim down rifles into smgs real easy.

    it's not like yours REALLY need profiles that arent smgs anyway!
    20190827_113102.jpg
     
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