Speculative Fire in Fireteams

Discussion in '[Archived]: N3 Rules' started by RogueJello, Feb 4, 2019.

  1. RogueJello

    RogueJello Well-Known Member

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    Just wanting to make sure I have this interaction correct.

    Setup, active player has a 5 man link team with a Light Grenade Launcher. They have the target in the Targetted state.

    When they fire, they have +3 for being a 5 man link team, they have no penalty for speculative fire, they have burst 1, since Speculative fire is restricted to B1. They also have any potential range penalties for the LGL.

    Is this correct?
     
  2. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    +3 from targeted, +3 from Fireteam, plus any range mods. Always burst 1 as A ) Spec Fire is limited to burst 1, and B ) Fireteam burst bonus doesn't apply to entire orders.
     
  3. RogueJello

    RogueJello Well-Known Member

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    Thanks. Makes LGLs in 5 man Fireteams pretty scary, as long as you can apply Targetted. A 9 point swing and +3 bonus from link team makes a LGL worth using.
     
  4. Commoner1

    Commoner1 Well-Known Member

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    This is the reason why I never talk about StarCo. NEVER.
     
  5. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    WIP 14 Suprise Shot FO + BS22 Spec Fire. Seems balanced to me. :')
     
  6. DukeofEarl

    DukeofEarl Well-Known Member

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    Add an Apsara and Operations can do it with WIP 15 FO, no SS though still 14 for that.
     
    #6 DukeofEarl, Feb 4, 2019
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  7. RogueJello

    RogueJello Well-Known Member

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    I'm sadly aware of this when my opponent dropped a grenade right on top of a 2 volunteers and three 45thers who were cowering behind a building. Now I'm just checking to make sure we didn't do anything wrong. Seems like it's legal to do this.

    Not sure it's a balance issue, I just need to learn to spread out a bit. :)
     
  8. DukeofEarl

    DukeofEarl Well-Known Member

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    That's a painful reminder. I watched a game saturday where a linked ML bot did some work for the same reason.
     
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  9. Vanderbane

    Vanderbane Well-Known Member

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    This is the reason I am glad I learned to play with tohaa. almost every trooper is linked, and you learn how to spread them out. Or you get punished for it.
     
  10. Commoner1

    Commoner1 Well-Known Member

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    I know but I had the E/M lgl + X-Visor on a BS13 unit in my mind when making my comment.
     
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  11. oldGregg

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    Yeah ... This is part of what makes DBS so awesome.
     
  12. DukeofEarl

    DukeofEarl Well-Known Member

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    They still get the distinction of being the only sectorial with access to MSV2, Smoke, and White Noise all at once though.
     
  13. paraelix

    paraelix Seed Embryo Scholar

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    Or skip the Apsara and fire Shock grenades instead.
     
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  14. DukeofEarl

    DukeofEarl Well-Known Member

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    on 20s
     
  15. kinginyellow

    kinginyellow Well-Known Member

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    Tohaa has this as well, with using symbiobomb to generate white noise, but its called mirror ball, so technically correct. Lol.
     
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  16. DukeofEarl

    DukeofEarl Well-Known Member

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    Shame it isn't really a repeatable thing for them.

    I'll count them with StarCo as a sectorial, despite it not being completely accurate as written right now.
     
    #16 DukeofEarl, Feb 5, 2019
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  17. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    They also get Eclipse Smoke. All that being said they also have severe list building restrictions in other respects.
     
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  18. kinginyellow

    kinginyellow Well-Known Member

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    Yea, didnt realize you were talking specifically sectorial only until after I posted and then was "welp, to late now, lol".
     
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  19. Icchan

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    It's potentially more effective to just ignore the FO and just spam two orders on the grenade launcher.
     
  20. Shoitaan

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    Depends on your relationship with your dice...
     
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