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[SOLVED] Jammer (Yet another one)

Discussion in 'Solved Rule Questions' started by Wyrmnax, Jun 12, 2018.

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  1. Wyrmnax

    Wyrmnax Well-Known Member

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    Can a jammer ARO Jam a oponent that moved through its ZoC but was never in LoF? I seem to remember it can, but the only reference to attacking outside its LoF is Intuitive attack - wich is a entire order skill and as such not possible on ARO.
     
  2. macfergusson

    macfergusson Van Zant is my spirit animal.

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    Yes, it also has the "No LoF" tag, separate from the "Intuitive Attack" tag. So being in ZoC triggers an ARO, which normally would just be a Change Facing opportunity, but Jammer grants another ARO option.
     
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  3. pakohbadajoz

    pakohbadajoz Well-Known Member

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    So an unit with Jammer cannot ARO to camo markers with atack?

    <br>Una ranita iba caminando...
     
  4. Balewolf

    Balewolf It's all opinion

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    Correct. They can only do it in the active turn with an intuitive attack.
     
  5. Arkhos94

    Arkhos94 Well-Known Member

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    There is a specific list of ARO allowed against camo marker http://infinitythewiki.com/en/Camouflage_and_Hiding_(CH)#CH:_LEVEL_2._CAMOUFLAGE :

    AROs against CH Markers
    • The only AROs available against a CH: Camouflage Marker (CAMO) or a CH: TO Camouflage Marker (TO CAMO) are Discover, Change Facing, and Dodge.
    • Bear in mind that when reacting to a CH: Camouflage or CH: TO Camouflage Marker, you may delay your ARO declaration until after the Marker declares its second Short Skill.
    • However, if you choose to delay your ARO, you may only declare it if the Camouflage Marker revealed itself with its second Short Skill. If the Marker does not reveal itself, the reactive trooper loses his right to ARO.
    So no attack, including comm, against camo marker
     
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  6. Savnock

    Savnock Nerfherder

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    This is my main problem with this piece of gear. And further this incredibly powerful, potentially game-breaking ARO ability is also combined with a really powerful Intuitive Attack that prevents any meaningful retaliation. And when it's on a 5-point trooper... with smoke and Dogged... no bueno.
     
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  7. nazroth

    nazroth 'well known Nomad agitator'

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    I would be very happy if Jammer was to cease to exist in the game. It is broken. Especially on a cheap troop. I'm partially happy new Nomad unit got one, but still - Jammer is so broken I would sacrifice own unit for the thing to go away.
     
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  8. HellLois

    HellLois What the Hell...Lois?
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    Correct
     
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