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[SOLVED] AP & Cover Question

Discussion in 'Solved Rule Questions' started by Cannon Fodder, Nov 1, 2018.

  1. Cannon Fodder

    Cannon Fodder Well-Known Member

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    This may sound like a fairly basic question but I can't find the actual rule in the Wiki.

    When halving the ARM with AP ammo do you add the +3 from cover before or after you divide by 2?
    1. (ARM / 2) + 3
    2. (ARM + 3) / 2
    My group has always played it answer 1, but I saw it argued on facebook (in french) as option 2. I can't find the answer in the wiki to back up either point.
     
  2. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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  3. Cannon Fodder

    Cannon Fodder Well-Known Member

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    I missed the word ORIGINAL before hand. Without it the rule can go either way.

    • AP Special Ammunition reduces the ARM value of its target to half of its original value, rounding up. Consequently, any ARM above 0 cannot be reduced below 1.
     
  4. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Well, then there's the second bullet point which literally and clearly says that Partial Cover MOD remains unaltered...
     
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  5. toadchild

    toadchild Premeasure

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    It drives me nuts that hacking attacks don’t have the same wording for firewalls.
     
  6. Alphz

    Alphz Kuang Shi Vet. Retired.

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    I wish it didnt though.

    Poor AP ammo.
     
  7. toadchild

    toadchild Premeasure

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    Even against an ARM 2 target in cover AP has a noticeably higher chance to succeed than shock.

    Asura shooting Wildcat with AP - 53% to wound
    Asura shooting Wildcat with Shock - 49.7% to wound

    And the benefit continues to increase with ARM value.

    Asura shooting Mobile Brigada with AP - 49.7% to wound
    Asura shooting Mobile Brigada with Shock - 42.4% to wound

    Yes, it would do more if it also reduced cover, but unless the target has ARM 0 or 1 it’s still beneficial.
     
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  8. HellLois

    HellLois What the Hell...Lois?
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