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So, far with my NCA

Discussion in 'PanOceania' started by andre61, Jun 12, 2018.

  1. andre61

    andre61 Well-Known Member

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    So! far I played two games with my NCA, I lost two games so far, this is my list #1, this is what I painted so far.
    [​IMG] CDN team
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    [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] FUSILIER Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] FUSILIER Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] SWISS GUARD HMG / Pistol, AP CCW. (2 | 68)
    [​IMG] UHLAN HMG, Feuerbach / . (2 | 99)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] CRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. ()
    [​IMG] LOCUST Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Breaker Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Shock CCW, Knife. (0.5 | 38)
    [​IMG] AUXILIA Combi Rifle + AUXBOT_1 / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] AUXBOT_1 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4)
    [​IMG] AUXILIA Combi Rifle + AUXBOT_1 / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] AUXBOT_1 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4)
    [​IMG] BIPANDRA Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    [​IMG] CSU Breaker Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)

    4.5 SWC | 300 Points

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    I used this list in a game of Show of Force and I lost 7 to 1, to a JSA player. I got. so, into killing stuff with the Uhlan and Swiss guard, I did not do the mission.

    Here is the list for game 2
    In game 2 I played a MRRF player and lost 7 to 4
    here is my list
    [​IMG] CDN team A
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    [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] FUSILIER Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] FUSILIER Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] FUSILIER Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 18)
    [​IMG] FUSILIER MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 18)
    [​IMG] SWISS GUARD HMG / Pistol, AP CCW. (2 | 68)
    [​IMG] UHLAN HMG, Feuerbach / . (2 | 99)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] CRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. ()
    [​IMG] LOCUST (Marksmanship L1) Marksman Rifle / Pistol, Shock CCW, Knife. (0 | 33)
    [​IMG] AUXILIA Combi Rifle + AUXBOT_1 / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] AUXBOT_1 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4)
    [​IMG] AUXILIA Combi Rifle + AUXBOT_1 / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] AUXBOT_1 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4)

    6 SWC | 296 Points

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    So! in this one I painted more Fusiliers, and again I got so! into killing I didn't do any part of the mission until the 3rd turn. How do you NCA players fight the blood lust?
     
  2. barakiel

    barakiel Echo Bravo Master Sergeant
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    I mentioned this in the big writeup, but I think success with NCA is always going to be about leveraging your killing power to create space for doing the mission. You're right, it's absolutely easy to get caught up in killing things, but at the end of the game that still becomes a loss if you haven't pushed the buttons or taken the zones.

    This is where units like CSU specialists, Auxilia FOs, Hexa Killer Hackers and Pathfinder bots come into play: they're relatively mobile, disposable Specialists that can help solve different kinds of problems that sit between you and your objectives. If you paint all these up and get them in your list, you're easily looking at 16+ Orders. Use half those Orders to zap things, the other half to take ground so you can do the mission.
     
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  3. andre61

    andre61 Well-Known Member

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    Think you for your feed back, and you are right and I should have kept that in the back of my head, right now I'm working on my PanO support box. Once that is done I will work on my REMOT's. I don't understand why I was hating on PanO for sometime, I now see what all you other PanO players see. The power of PanO, Got to love PanO, It kills.
     
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  4. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    You have to many shooters and not enough orders. Unless you play Limited Insertion NCA lists usually have ~15 orders to boot ;D
     
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  5. andre61

    andre61 Well-Known Member

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    I know, that's all I have painted so far, The next lists I show will have more orders.
     
  6. daboarder

    daboarder Force One Commander
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    Thats Kinda PanO in a nutshell really.

    In terms of NCA, Ive actually started finally playing them myself. Im thoroughly enjoying how they work together on the table, even though I find the List writing as frustrating as all PanO lists.

    Im looking to really leverage the combo of TAG+Link team+support and Ive got both a Squalo list and Uhlan list that Ive used once each that are working a dream.

    The other thing I plan on leveraging is hte Aleph units, I have a Deva Hacker, Deva Spitfire and Garuda BS on order and will be using them both in TAG lists and lists that build around force multiplication.

    Finally I want to look into developing a PanO centric Hacking Doctrine, and while I have ideas for both ASA and MO being built around "Paladin Hacking" NCA really is probably the easiest place to start learning something I've always aimed to minimize in my lists due to the presence of the Heva KHD.


    [​IMG] Squalo
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] SQUALO (Armored Cav.) MULTI HMG, Heavy Grenade Launcher / AP Heavy Pistol. (2.5 | 95)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] CRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. ()
    [​IMG] FUSILIER Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 15)
    [​IMG] FUSILIER (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] FUSILIER (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] FUSILIER Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] PATHFINDER DRONBOT Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16)
    [​IMG] MACHINIST Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    [​IMG] MULEBOT Hacker (EVO Hacking Device) Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 25)
    [​IMG] HEXA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 27)
    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4
    [​IMG] HEXA MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 32)
    [​IMG] FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] TRAUMA-DOC Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    6 SWC | 299 Points
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    [​IMG] Uhlan
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] UHLAN HMG, Feuerbach / . (2 | 99)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] CRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. ()
    [​IMG] MACHINIST Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    [​IMG] PALBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] PALBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] FUSILIER Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] FUSILIER Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 18)
    [​IMG] FUSILIER (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] FUSILIER (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] FUSILIER Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 15)
    [​IMG] AUXILIA (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle + AUXBOT_1 / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] AUXBOT_1 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4)
    [​IMG] PATHFINDER DRONBOT Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16)
    [​IMG] SIERRA DRONBOT HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25)
    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4
    [​IMG] AUXILIA (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle + AUXBOT_1 / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] AUXBOT_1 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4)
    [​IMG] FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] SIERRA DRONBOT HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25)
    6 SWC | 299 Points
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  7. AdmiralJCJF

    AdmiralJCJF Heart of the Hyperpower
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    I would ditch one of the FO Fusiliers down to Combi to get a Palbot for my Machinist.

    Gives you a decoy too, which is always nice.
     
  8. daboarder

    daboarder Force One Commander
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    Nah, Im finding 2 FO fusiliers are great linked as an ARO for covering across my DZ and a flank.

    That list is also packing,
    2 B2 Wip13 Mimetism Flashes
    2 B2 WIP15 Flashes
    1 B 2Wip13 13 Flash

    I like the link

    The machinist only has 1 thing to really heal anyway which is the squalo and if I get the palbot cant coord If the fugazi drop they drop and usually take more effort than they are worth killing, they can also drop sniffers in ARO if I really need them down more than I need the fugazi alive
     
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  9. Ixidro

    Ixidro Deep agent infiltrated in PanOceanian HQ

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    If you bring a TAG, it pretty much justifies having a machinist too. As PanO player you have to take advantage of the rule G:Remote Presence that gives your TAG better odds to be repaired vs. manned TAGs. Also, because he's a cheap specailist with D-Charges, he can be your backup plan if you have to blow up a console/AC2/doing your classifieds.
     
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  10. daboarder

    daboarder Force One Commander
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    The Machinist is basically one of the most "must take" profiles in the game.

    Its the only Engineer in PanO at AVA1
    The faction Focuses on both HI, TAGs and REMs, and a Machinist is a requirement to support those troops
    Its one of the few sources of Dcharges in PanO and certainly the cheapest
     
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