1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.
  2. Hemos actualizado nuestra PolĂ­tica de Privacidad acorde con la nueva RGPD. +Info // We've updated our Privacy Policy to comply with the GDPR. +Info
    Dismiss Notice

So about this "points formula"

Discussion in 'PanOceania' started by eciu, Jun 29, 2018.

Tags:
  1. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2017
    Messages:
    3,551
    Likes Received:
    4,131
    upload_2018-6-29_13-54-41.png upload_2018-6-29_13-54-58.png


    WTF xD
     
    Hecaton, Death, DFW Ike and 3 others like this.
  2. MrNailbrain

    MrNailbrain Relentless Optimist

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2017
    Messages:
    384
    Likes Received:
    869
    Man it must be nice to have a dev team that likes your faction. I can only hope that Varuna's new units will be just as creative.

    I'm going to try to stay positive here, because clearly there's a lot of cool stuff going on at CBHQ and I'm glad the cool new Tunguska things exist.
     
    Hecaton, Barrogh, DFW Ike and 3 others like this.
  3. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead
    Warcor

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2017
    Messages:
    2,857
    Likes Received:
    6,009
    Hey, +2 CC :P
     
    Barrogh, AdmiralJCJF, Solar and 2 others like this.
  4. Benkei

    Benkei Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2017
    Messages:
    1,115
    Likes Received:
    1,585
    Welcome to Yu Jing
     
  5. daboarder

    daboarder Force One Commander
    Warcor

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2017
    Messages:
    3,505
    Likes Received:
    5,141
    Mate,

    Seriously, not even joking, aint happening.


    My personal favourite.....

    #ThanksCB
     
  6. daboarder

    daboarder Force One Commander
    Warcor

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2017
    Messages:
    3,505
    Likes Received:
    5,141
    to be perfectly honest all.
    Im done buying, I saw GW behave this way for years and I dont think i'll fall into the same trap for PanO as I did for nids all those years ago.

    I'll play with what I have, its plenty to run varied lists, but ill wait to see what varuna drops before deciding if I want to continue with this game
     
  7. Benkei

    Benkei Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2017
    Messages:
    1,115
    Likes Received:
    1,585
    To be honest lately CB is being really oldGW-ish...
     
  8. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead
    Warcor

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2017
    Messages:
    2,857
    Likes Received:
    6,009
    I'm more curious about OSS at this point.

    I'm also compiling a long, detailed, and hopefully reasonable mail to CB. I hope that some of my arguments will make them rethink this approach.
     
  9. daboarder

    daboarder Force One Commander
    Warcor

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2017
    Messages:
    3,505
    Likes Received:
    5,141
    it wont, they listen to the warcors that arent us mate, shrug, I dont think I care anymore
     
    Dragonstriker and AdmiralJCJF like this.
  10. Benkei

    Benkei Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2017
    Messages:
    1,115
    Likes Received:
    1,585
    Shame is this Tunguska release seems really creative and funny, but only for the Tunguska players. If they did this with all factions this game would rock; instead, they do this for some players and fuck other players off because reasons.

    You can either play "cool anime samurai" or "cool antisystem hackers who are actually bankers" and soon "cool drunk cosacks" (who i have no doubt will power creep too) but if you play some old faction/sectorial I'm sorry, but no luck for you.
     
    fenren, Hecaton, Barrogh and 2 others like this.
  11. daboarder

    daboarder Force One Commander
    Warcor

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2017
    Messages:
    3,505
    Likes Received:
    5,141
    For those that think this is a PanO specific issue.
    Compare Securiate to Morat Vanguards
    Compare Hollowmen to Mobile Brigada
    Compare Zondnautica to Aragoto


    This absolutely pushes the formula to a point that it has broken
     
  12. emperorsaistone

    emperorsaistone Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2017
    Messages:
    606
    Likes Received:
    586
    A statement from CBs side, how they plan to evolve this game and the older factions could be very helpful for both CB and us.
     
    fenren, Hecaton, DFW Ike and 4 others like this.
  13. Benkei

    Benkei Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2017
    Messages:
    1,115
    Likes Received:
    1,585
    Hell, compare Hollow Men to Su-Jian, the supposedly unique and top of the line broken IP for the IP faction.
     
    Dragonstriker and AdmiralJCJF like this.
  14. Benkei

    Benkei Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2017
    Messages:
    1,115
    Likes Received:
    1,585
    It will be released just after that article explaining what are they planning for Yu Jing's future after they took a third of the units away.
     
  15. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2017
    Messages:
    3,551
    Likes Received:
    4,131
    Hell, why not make a REMs with Hyper-Dynamics Lv2 to combat one of the main REMs weakneses xD
     
    Dragonstriker and AdmiralJCJF like this.
  16. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead
    Warcor

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2017
    Messages:
    2,857
    Likes Received:
    6,009
    Hey, new army getting new and cool stuff is perfectly fine. Benkei summed the real problem nicely:

    As a PanO player I sometimes feel like the faction design was made by someone who watched a Hunger Games movie marathon, and then was told to design a Peacekeeper army...
     
    AdmiralJCJF, barakiel and daboarder like this.
  17. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2017
    Messages:
    3,551
    Likes Received:
    4,131
    Obviously. Every new army need new toys (thats the main happy factor). It's just sad that a lot of "old" armies are left wanting, with half-cooked ideas, or pathetic equipment comparing to something new which happened to get designer love and was turned up to 11.
     
    AdmiralJCJF, Stiopa and timmy like this.
  18. timmy

    timmy Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2018
    Messages:
    42
    Likes Received:
    28
    Yeah there isn't much of a reason why they shouldn't cost 14 points.
    Like others have said Hollowmen are just better Brigadas for less and have a cheap link filler.
    I'm most worried about puppets though. They just seem too tough for how little they cost especially in vanilla.
     
    AdmiralJCJF likes this.
  19. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2017
    Messages:
    3,551
    Likes Received:
    4,131
    As much as I didn't watch it, afaik Peacekeepers had at least some nice bombers to perform mass bombing of opposition insurgents ?;P
     
    AdmiralJCJF and Stiopa like this.
  20. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead
    Warcor

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2017
    Messages:
    2,857
    Likes Received:
    6,009
    Puppets are tough but on the other hand pretty limited in what they do. They don't even get close to Proxy level, and their troupe is only AVA 1. With Puppet Master being the weak link.

    Hollow Men are great - but also have PH 10.
     
    Lohdroz and AdmiralJCJF like this.