In below diagram, we have two Jaguars and Senor Massacre behind a wall, with 4 enemies on the other side. The intent is for a jaguar to throw smoke, with the smoke preventing BS Attack AROs as they close in to base-base contact next order (they are a fireteam, as is enemy ABCD, although I believe for the core question at hand fireteams dont matter). The question concerns the Smoke Special Dodge rule, and face-face rolls that "cancel" the smoke. Reading through the Smoke Special Dodge, the key phrase is: "When, as part of an Order or ARO, the trooper throwing Smoke is facing off against several enemies, his Roll is used against all eligible Face to Face Attack Rolls, but he will need to win every single Face to Face Roll in order to leave the Smoke Template on the table." Discussions on forums have had mention of various lines such as: https://forum.corvusbelli.com/threa...my-model-with-smoke-grenades.1958/#post-30870 "If both troopers are affecting each other, or each other's action, it's a Face to Face Roll." and https://forum.corvusbelli.com/threa...my-model-with-smoke-grenades.1958/#post-32450 "The type of weapon is explicitly tied to the question of affecting another model. It's not a face to face because you're both declaring vs attack. It's a face to face because your weapon changes their state, ie from alive to dead." (added by me - e.g. from not-in-ZeroVis to in-ZeroVis) In below situation C) the following is quite clear, he is "facing off" against A,B,C. They would clearly get FTF rolls, and if they won, the Smoke is cancelled. What about D? does he get a FTF? Or can he only dodge out of the smoke? In situation B) Here, there is no LOF, no "true" FtF... but, still, they are being affected by a direct-fire of another. Does "facing off" mean they have LoF ? or simply affecting each other, as some of the above quotes indicate? Does ABC get FtF rolls that can cancel the smoke? (D is not inside it) Finally, situation A) using speculative fire. Here, no LOF, and it's not even a direct fire, it's speculative fire. Same question, does the Smoke Special Dodge attack give ABCD FtF rolls to "cancel" the smoke.
Smoke doesn't inflict wounds or game states on a trooper, so it is not considered to affect them for the purposes of F2F rolls. It is only the Special Dodge Trait that allows Smoke to ever cause F2F rolls. Scenarios A and B are normal rolls for both the BS Attack with Smoke ammo and the Dodge AROs, so the Active model just needs to pass their BS Attack. Scenario C involves F2F rolls with troopers A, B, and C so the Active model would need to win all three for the smoke to persist. Trooper D is Dodging, which is a normal roll vs Smoke Ammo, so does not affect the outcome of the BS Attack with Smoke Ammo. Edit: If you read the examples for Smoke it's clear that Dodging is a Normal roll and does not cancel it, only a BS Attack or similar causes a F2F.
