Anyone use them and like them? I really can't see why to take them. They want to get up close but they start in deployment, sure they have ODD but one MSV can ruin their day. Veteran troops is good if you just happen to get a secret objective that needs it but I found the changes are slim. The ones with the good guns are pricey and then become impetuous with the first kill! So no more cover to add to ODD. MSV1 isn't bad but again they only have one gun that could take out something at range. Too bad they don't have nimbus or smoke grenades themselves. They just seem like worse Myrmidons.