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Scycla in Aleph vs Acontacimento

Discussion in 'ALEPH' started by Angry Clown, Oct 6, 2022.

  1. Angry Clown

    Angry Clown Well-Known Member

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    Hi guys.

    I am trying to find an efficient way to use Scycla both in Aleph and Steel Phalanx.

    Aleph doesnt have any repeater coverage like Nomads(morans)(deployable repeaters), PANO (peacemakers), 012 (Team Sirius) etc.
    So you need to move Scycla or rems to mid table.

    In Phalanx finally you can make it more easier since she is in haris options with Makhe or Hoplite. If you need a safe aproach here, taking a Hipolyta is a must. You need to use eclipse smokes and move together with the Amazon. Lets say you take a Makhe red fury,scycla and hipolyta.

    But this haris doesnt represent the legend of Scycla very well. Maybe you know the tale. Odysseus with his ship had to choose between either getting in Chabrydis with a chance of loosing his ship or to take an other way to face deadly Scycla. Finally he lost some of his men on this voyage after choosing the path to defy Scycla. bla bla. :) ( If i remeber the story correctly. )

    So i thought about maybe Corvus Belli here wanted this kind of harmony for these 2 troops. So i tried to put Chabrydis in a link instead.


    Scylla FTO & Charybdis FTO undefined / undefined. (0.5 | 40)
    SCYLLA FTO (Hacker, Hacking Device [UPGRADE: Trinity (+2 Damage)]) Boarding Shotgun, Pitcher ( ) / Pistol, Shock CC Weapon. (0.5 | 28)

    CHARYBDIS FTO Heavy Flamethrower / Heavy Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 12)
    MAKHE Red Fury, Zapper / Breaker Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 35)
    HIPPOLYTA Breaker Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, Flash Pulse, Eclipse Grenades / Pistol, EXP CC Weapon. (0 | 40)

    This trio can march forward, can kill things and give totally -6 hacking defence to Scycla too. But they can not push the buttons on the way. Also there is no "face scycla or charybdis threat!" situation at all in offence.

    In defence answer is yes. Opponent has to face double heavyflame and a serious hacking attack at once and have to make a decision.

    In Aleph situation is weirder because there is no rem with repeater in mid table and you need to push other rems for reliable threat.

    However in Acontacimento with peacemakers you can feel the wrath of a scycla in the beginning both in defence and in offence. At the moment, Scycla is more powerful in an other sectorial which she doesnt belong to.

    I think about it and i believe best solution is giving only Chabrydis forward deployment skill.
    If a guard skill is given too to Chabrydis, it becomes a real hard choice for the opponent now. Opponent has to decide on dodge or reset which both are not perfect at all like happens in the tale.

    Also this is a strong defence which phalanx really need.

    Would love to hear your comments on it.
     
    #1 Angry Clown, Oct 6, 2022
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  2. yoink101

    yoink101 Chandra SpecOps Complaint Department

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    Any hacker is served well with a peacemaker or two. It is an amazing piece. I agree that acontecimento is a great place for Scylla.

    I think your haris is on the right track. I also think it's worth getting a specialist into the haris, depending on the mission. Sometimes, the haris with Makhe+Charybdis+Hippolyta is fine. Other times you want a specialist. I think Teucer+Makhe FO/Hoplite engineer+Charybdis is a solid alternative. It doesn't have eclipse, but Teucer at burst 3 is strong enough to know down just about anything that would want to stand up to slow your advance.

    It's also not terrible to put Scylla into the haris, depending on what you're hoping to accomplish with it. The option to hit with a boarding shotgun or hack can be a wonderful choice to force an opponent to have to make. Obviously, she's vulnerable to direct templates with low armor and only one wound, so you have to play her cautiously.

    Speaking of the peacemaker, I'm very sad that the Thyreos did not arrive with a minelayer who sports some deployable repeaters. Mixed with Pandora and Scylla, that would have been an interesting addition to the roster.
     
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  3. Angry Clown

    Angry Clown Well-Known Member

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    Makhe Fo could be nice specialist. Mimetism in cover with msv1 can be handy for forward observe too.
    Hipolyta + Makhe Fo + Chabrydis handles what we can ask from a haris.
    pushing buttons, killing things with hipolyta and carry repeater that Scycla can enjoy.

    I would love to see makhe fo variant with mimetism-6 here.
     
  4. Savnock

    Savnock Nerfherder

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    Apparently ECM stacks with Tinbot, so Scylla in a Haris with Hector seems like a simple choice. Put Pandora in there and a Makhe ML for ARO duty, and you’ve got your turn 2-3 heavy hitters, Turn 1 frustrating ARO turret.
     
  5. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Isn't that four members? If you leave someone nearby as a spare you won't be able to re-form the Fireteam if the Makhe ML buys the farm
     
  6. archon

    archon Well-Known Member

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    You mean if someone attacks Scylla via the repeater in her bot? Or were did you got the -6 from.

    I don´t think they need a buff. They are alredy very good. You get a 6-4 moving bot with HFT and repeater that can extend the hacking zone or even do suicide attack runs without risking a order. And: Scylla has pitchers!
     
  7. Angry Clown

    Angry Clown Well-Known Member

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    yoink101 Chandra SpecOps Complaint Department

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    Only three of them can fit in a team at once. Makhai can only haris...
     
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