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Discussion in 'Nomads' started by T. Rex Pushups, Jan 25, 2018.

  1. T. Rex Pushups

    T. Rex Pushups Well-Known Member

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    [​IMG] Remotes are fun──────────────────────────────────────────────────
    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] REAKTION ZOND HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26)
    [​IMG] REAKTION ZOND HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26)
    [​IMG] HELLCAT HMG, E/Mauler / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 31)
    [​IMG] TOMCAT Doctor (MediKit) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower + 1 Zondcat / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 26)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] ZONDCAT Electric Pulse. (4)
    [​IMG] INTERVENTOR Hacker Lieutenant (Hacking Device Plus) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25)
    [​IMG] SALYUT Hacker (EVO Hacking Device) Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 25)
    [​IMG] STEMPLER ZOND Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 17)
    [​IMG] CLOCKMAKER Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18)
    [​IMG] ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)[​IMG] JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4 [​IMG]2 [​IMG]2
    [​IMG] SPEKTR Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 36)
    [​IMG] TRANSDUCTOR ZOND Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] ZERO (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19)
    [​IMG] MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, E/M CCW. (0 | 6)
    [​IMG] MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 6)
    [​IMG] SALYUT (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    5.5 SWC | 300 Points

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    I was planning on Pairing this list with my TAG list but I was hoping I could get some help refining it.

    I’d like to keep the focus on AD troops and having a spectr specialist of some sort even if he ends up not being a hacker.

    [​IMG] Szalamandra & dirty tricks──────────────────────────────────────────────────
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    [​IMG] SZALAMANDRA Hyper-rapid Magnetic Cannon, Heavy Flamethrower / . (2 | 90)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] SZALAMANDRA PILOT Contender / Pistol, Knife. ()
    [​IMG] ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] ZERO Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
    [​IMG] ZERO (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19)
    [​IMG] CLOCKMAKER Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18)
    [​IMG] ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] MOBILE BRIGADA Lieutenant MULTI Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 39)
    [​IMG] INTRUDER HMG, Grenades / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 42)
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] INTERVENTOR Hacker (Hacking Device Plus) Boarding Shotgun, 1 FastPanda / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 26)
    [​IMG] TOMCAT Engineer Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 22)
    4.5 SWC | 300 Points

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  2. SuperD

    SuperD Well-Known Member

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    Both lists seem to be heavily themed towards turn order. The first one wants to go second, the second list wants to go first.

    With that in mind, in case things don't go as planned I think the first list might benefit with another active turn shooter - Sputnik spitfire for example to keep with theme. He's a big step above the Reakton HMGs and benefits more from a command order overclock. The easiest way to get him in there would be to swap one of the Reakton bots plus maybe a morlock. There's lots of remotes in the list already which will make deployment tricky.

    For the second list, as you already have a tomcat engineer, I might drop the clockmaker and take 2x flash pulse remotes. That would take you out of limited insertion which has pros/cons. You could also replace the brigade lieutenant with an intruder lieutenant for a few extra points that could go to a warcor or a zondbot for your tomcat.

    For both lists, I would replace the spare Alguacile with a Jaguar unless you plan on "pretending" he's the lieutenant to try to misdirect an AD trooper. It might not work as a player could count SWC and realize you're coming up short or it might work great as they may miss the 1.5 in the Hellcat/Intruder, who knows!?
     
  3. T. Rex Pushups

    T. Rex Pushups Well-Known Member

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    For the TAG list I want to be limited insertion because I really don’t want to eat losing those 2 orders. I am really attached to the clockmaker because when repairing a 90 point TAG that can’t re-roll I really want that WIP 15.

    The Tomcat is an engineer because D-charges seem more generically useful than a doctor with no one around him to heal.
     
  4. Rubberpiggy

    Rubberpiggy Well-Known Member

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    What missions are we looking at? Or are you just looking for general input?
     
  5. T. Rex Pushups

    T. Rex Pushups Well-Known Member

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    For now general input.

    But if there are some missions that jump out at you as this pairing leaving me particularly disadvantaged let me know.
     
  6. T. Rex Pushups

    T. Rex Pushups Well-Known Member

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    [​IMG] Remotes are fun
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] TSYKLON Spitfire, Pitcher / Electric Pulse. (1 | 31)
    [​IMG] REAKTION ZOND HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26)
    [​IMG] HELLCAT HMG, E/Mauler / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 31)
    [​IMG] TOMCAT Doctor (MediKit) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower + 1 Zondcat / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 26)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] ZONDCAT Electric Pulse. (4)
    [​IMG] SALYUT Hacker (EVO Hacking Device) Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 25)
    [​IMG] STEMPLER ZOND Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 17)
    [​IMG] CLOCKMAKER Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18)
    [​IMG] ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] INTERVENTOR Hacker Lieutenant (Hacking Device Plus) Combi Rifle, 1 FastPanda / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27)
    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4
    [​IMG] SPEKTR Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 36)
    [​IMG] TRANSDUCTOR ZOND Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] ZERO (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19)
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Adhesive Launcher, Panzerfaust / Pistol, DA CCW. (0.5 | 13) 6 SWC | 300 Points
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    I incorporated a few of your suggestions. The Tsyklon swap is a good idea. It is definitely stronger active turn when you factor in the BS, armor and having its own repeater is super useful for doing White Noise or receiving Buffs.
     
  7. Rubberpiggy

    Rubberpiggy Well-Known Member

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    Should be fine unless you are looking at pure quadrant Control missions. I like the second remote list better, but with all those repeaters and a Hacking sensitive lt, I would probably include at least one killer hacker. Also, the hellcat with hmg sits in a weird niche for me, I prefer the range bands of the Spitfire. But that`s more of a play style thing I guess.

    With the Szalamandra, I have run a few versions of the limited Szally list with success in local tournaments so I`ll post a version I like. I always find that orders are scarce in limited lists, so I generally run Zoe and Pi Well because of the utility of the pair instead of the Tomcat. Agan it`s down to playstyle I guess.


    [​IMG] Nomads──────────────────────────────────────────────────[​IMG]10 [​IMG]1[​IMG] SZALAMANDRA Hyper-rapid Magnetic Cannon, Heavy Flamethrower / . (2 | 90) [​IMG] [​IMG] SZALAMANDRA PILOT Contender / Pistol, Knife. ()[​IMG] ZOE & PI-WELL undefined. (0 | 47) [​IMG] [​IMG] ZOE (Hacking Device. UPGRADE: Stop!) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 28) [​IMG] [​IMG] PI-WELL Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 19)[​IMG] ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)[​IMG] JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)[​IMG] INTRUDER HMG, Grenades / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 42)[​IMG] ZERO Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)[​IMG] ZERO (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19)[​IMG] KRAKOT RENEGADE Red Fury, Chest Mine / Pistol, Shock CC Weapon. (1 | 24)[​IMG] MOBILE BRIGADA Lieutenant Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 33)[​IMG] JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10) 5 SWC | 299 PointsOpen in Infinity Army
     
  8. T. Rex Pushups

    T. Rex Pushups Well-Known Member

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    If I am willing to lose the minelayer part of the Zero and the Fast panda on the LT I could easily turn the zero into a killer hacker.

    Which would also let me turn the panzerfaust jaguar into a Alguacil LT and a Warcor
     
  9. T. Rex Pushups

    T. Rex Pushups Well-Known Member

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    Ok I found an event I might attend that is using these missions

    Round 1: Hunting party
    Round 2: Acquisition
    Round 3: Frontline
    Round 4: Firefight

    Thoughts on how my list pair would handle these?
     
  10. Tristan228

    Tristan228 Morlock trainer
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    Assuming you mean these two lists I'd say Frontline and Firefight will be reasy to do.
    On the other hand I cant see much useful stuff in both lists for Hunting Party. The Szally list being the only list capable of getting ADHLs with two troops (one the Lt.) though.
    For Aquisition your best chances will be with the Szally list too (try to get a Deployable repeater in that list! If someone wants to possess the Szally, a unlikely as it may be, the Killerhacker won't be able to prevent the following rampage).
     
  11. T. Rex Pushups

    T. Rex Pushups Well-Known Member

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    I have a fast panda on the Interventor already but I don’t know what I would drop to get a deployable repeater in the list.
     
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  12. Tristan228

    Tristan228 Morlock trainer
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    You could kick the incompetent Corregidor goon out an invest in more tunguskan excellence. At first glance the Spectr might look like muc wasted potential but put him in suppression fir afte he planted his Dep. Rep. and you'll see how nasty he is :)

    [​IMG] Szalamandra & dirty tricks
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    [​IMG] ALGUACIL Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 10)
    [​IMG] CLOCKMAKER Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18)
    [​IMG] GRENZER (Forward Observer, Sensor) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
    [​IMG] INTERVENTOR Hacker (Hacking Device Plus) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 24)
    [​IMG] INTRUDER HMG, Grenades / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 42)
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Light Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, E/M CCW. (0 | 13)
    [​IMG] SPEKTR (Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle, E/Mauler / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 32)
    [​IMG] SZALAMANDRA Hyper-rapid Magnetic Cannon, Heavy Flamethrower / . (2 | 90)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] SZALAMANDRA PILOT Contender / Pistol, Knife. ()
    [​IMG] ZERO Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
    [​IMG] ZERO (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19)
    [​IMG] ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)

    5.5 SWC | 299 Points

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  13. T. Rex Pushups

    T. Rex Pushups Well-Known Member

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    That is a nice variation. I could use the unspent point to get the combirifle version of the Interventor which would mean he was an LT possibility which means I am showing more than one possible LT.

    One downside is I don’t think they have released a non-sniper grenzer model yet.

    I know proxying is allowed and encouraged when necessary but I enjoy having the correct equipment shown.
     
  14. Rubberpiggy

    Rubberpiggy Well-Known Member

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    For the cost 2 pts more than the clockmaker and Grenzer, you get Zoe and Pi-Well. If you drop the jaguars light shotgun, it can be worked in. Pi-well is amazing and having an extra hacker with stop can also help. I find that having a sensor bot with s 2, odd and repeater guarding Szally’s back can be really powerful.
     
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    Tristan228 Morlock trainer
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    T. Rex Pushups Well-Known Member

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    I will definitively be trying that after they release the new models. Thanks for the suggestion.
     
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