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Ramah Hackers

Discussion in 'Haqqislam' started by HardDisk, Mar 28, 2019.

  1. HardDisk

    HardDisk Well-Known Member

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    So, Ghulams are the only HD we have, Leila and Nahab the only KHDs, Mukhtars and Tuaregs the only AHD.

    Maybe this should streamline a bit our lists, any thoughts about it?
     
  2. Death

    Death Well-Known Member

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    I think its perfectly fine. You want basic HD to be cheap, the KHD are acceptable as are the AHD. You have higher than average wip which is good.

    The real issue is the lack of repeaters so the hacking game will be limited but decently effective.
     
  3. Papa Bey

    Papa Bey Clueless Wonder. Still.

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    Alas, yes. Biological monsters everywhere. Calculators? Not so much. ;)
     
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  4. ik3rian

    ik3rian Anti-Ariadnian Specialist

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    Eh, five 6/* MOV repeaters are enough for your side of the table
     
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  5. maru

    maru Well-Known Member

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    Well not exacly - if you are hacker greedy you can do a Rem list with Repeter drones and Evo hacker to grants all REMS 2B in aro
    2X rafik that can be in a duo with Magrariba or Wildcard
    3x Fanous with B2 on flashpulse XD (for 8 p each )
    and other Evo programs
    to add to this you will have in a list Mila Sharifa in 95% she is just 20pspecialist Wildcard with good stats over all and KHD
    Tuareg is a nice hacker but i would go for Doctor or Bording Shotgun / rifle one
    Nahab is KHD and i have no idea yet how to use this unit .. -__-' - it is Red fury Ad unit em i right ?
    Mokhtar on the other hand with BTS of 6 is interesting hacker but im expecting to c a lot of MSV 2 profile
    and Ghulam hacker for 20p is like "Why if you can get mILA kALIFA ?" - unless you are up for support ware like the Hi support or something
     
  6. Barrogh

    Barrogh Well-Known Member

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    I don't think you can wildcard a Rafiq.

    Other than that, what exactly you want advanced hacking game for? The only concern I see is running Jans since a single KHD (Nahab KHD is not going to be your babysitter here, but can act proactively, with either KHD or a buller to some hacker's head from bad angle) is minimal defense, albeit it can be directly a part of the link and benefit from Tinbot A (can you run Leila instead of Namurr btw? I think you can, seeing as wildcard is often interpreted as "counts as anyone").

    As for other hacking applications, you will probably use your Fanous' flash pulse to stall attackers rather than their repeaters, and active turn hacking that isn't using KHD to clear the way for your hackable stuff is almost always highly questionable anyway, especially when you have a ton of fast attack pieces that can win f2fs and remove stuff in a more radical way.
     
  7. Flamberga

    Flamberga New Member

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    You can't Wildcard the Rafiq, and you can't make me believe I can wildcard it. It's cruel, man.
     
  8. Solar

    Solar Well-Known Member

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    Nahabs are real good KHDs. Cybermask up and charge off to slap a fool if nothing else.
     
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  9. Barrogh

    Barrogh Well-Known Member

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    ...how comes I always forget about Cybermask...
     
  10. Solar

    Solar Well-Known Member

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    With Tuareg and Mukhtar AHDs and Nahab KHDs we are in a strong hacking position tbh. As a Nomad player I always think: are the hackers useful outside of hacking (yes) and do I have access to decent repeaters and such, and/or infiltration capability (yes as well).
     
  11. Barrogh

    Barrogh Well-Known Member

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    Problem is, AHD is not really useful outside of hacking, and Mukhtars have better and cheaper profiles than AHD.

    Tuareg is a bit better simply due to HD/marker, but whether it's going to be more useful than cheaper profiles is quite the question.
     
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  12. Solar

    Solar Well-Known Member

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    Tuareg AHDs are useful outside of hacking though, because surprise shot TO Camo Light Shotguns are Very Good.

    With Spektrs I always wish they had a Shotgun specialist with Mines. Tuaregs do! Now admittedly, only BS 11, but that's not a big deal. It's the flexibility not the power. And when it comes to being a hacker, the WIP 15 Tuareg is a beast. Carbonites on 18 are no joke. Literally you can brute force your way through Deflector L2s.
     
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  13. ambisinister

    ambisinister Broken Zoetrope

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    I think @maru is suggesting you can form a duo of a Rafiq and a wildcard, not that the Rafiq is a wildcard.
     
  14. maru

    maru Well-Known Member

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    and i got answer from warcor
    maru said:
    "Ok
    in Ramalah
    Rafik Fto can duo with Maghariba
    but can Rafik Fto Duo with Wildcard replacing magrariba with lets say Leila Sharif ??/
    and in reverse maggy + wildcard instade rem ??"

    Tox answer:

    "Rafiq has Fireteam: Duo skill. His Fireteam table says Maghariba + Rafiq. A Wildcard can substitute the Maghariba.
    It's the same with the Maghariba, it has Fireteam: Duo skill."


    And Tarik may not do duos he may be only part of Core and Haris
     
  15. Serditii

    Serditii New Member

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    Rafiq has Fireteam: Duo AND Special fireteam: Duo with Maggy. And you can form Fireteam: Duo (not special fireteam) with Rafiq (Duo) + regular (or Duo) Rafic. In this case Rafic can be replaced with wildcard (Leila, Namurr, but not Tarik :( ). Same with Maggy and her Fireteam: Duo.

    P.S. Cheсk Rama List of Fireteams.
     
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  16. vorthain

    vorthain Veteran Novice

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    For me, I think having only one HD on the Ghulam puts us in a bind if we want Assisted Fire on the Rafiqs (or other remote with guns). Whether you want that is a matter of debate (that is, a 20 point backline hacker to get MMS2). Or if you're going to use them to back up a high cost aggressive unit (e.g., Tarik or Namurr), then it could be useful toting one along for that reason too.

    For KHD, we have Leila and Nahab. Leila is nice since she's a wildcard (stay behind with Ghulams or Zhayedan and use repeaters, or advance with Mukhtars, Rafiq, or whatever to be aggressive). Nothing but good things to say about her. Nahab is a tough choice between that and the more generic Specialist Operative option. SO gets the template and d-charges (and can't be killer hacked herself), whereas the other has burst, e/mitter, and the suite of KHD programs for the same cost. Really a toss up for me. If Leila wasn't there, I'd go KHD, but if she is, then I don't know.

    For AHD, as others have said, not the most utilitarian option. Both the Mukhtar and Tuareg have different, cheaper specialist options with no SWC cost, so you're not forced to be a hacker if you simply want a specialist. The Tuareg WIP 15 is nothing to sneeze at either way, but having an invisible doctor waiting to heal advance units seems pretty valuable. The Mukhtar has a doctor, FO, and hacker option, so they're quite spoiled. AHD gets basic weaponry compared to the cheaper doc with shotgun and cheaper yet FO with d-charges, who can flash pulse, use d-charges, and push buttons as well as the rest. If you're linking them though, it seems worth considering bringing Leila instead of the AHD for a number of reasons.
     
  17. Papa Bey

    Papa Bey Clueless Wonder. Still.

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    Huh. Light hacking options. Huh.

    :P
     
  18. Errhile

    Errhile A traveller on the Silk Road

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    Well, that's a valid point. But keep in mind that EVO Hacker can pull Assisted Fire too. Also, it gives you a bonus to activate some of the Objectives in a few of the ITS missions. So, while not exactly cheap, there might be a reason to bring it in sometimes.
     
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