Playing the Armory for the first time today. Ideally, I would like to run a Janissaire core + Iguana. Would it be any good? How would you build the list?
Well, definitely grab the ML to blow up the armory without opening the door on your opponent's side :)
Janissaire core + Iguana is a lots of Pts, so not too many orders. Although it should be fine as it is Direct Action and not activation heavy.
I have been trying to post my list but I will just go with the code: CwBgzAPmIhEJwFIwHYBsiCMYCsSCESqG2OAHIocuogEzA7CVE2krPUm4b4aphYwwAb2oDswJqP6DgtSphDV22NPPyLlgtYgAC+oA 5 Man Jan Train(Doc, Lt, ML, HMG, BSG), Haris of Sekban(Doc, HRL, Haris), and twin Al'Hawa FO's.
I don't know much about QK, so this list might be utter garbage, but maybe it'll inspire you with a better one. Qapu Khalqi ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 10 IGUANA HMG, Heavy Flamethrower / . (2 | 71) IGUANA OPERATOR HMG / Pistol, Knife. () HAFZA (Forward Observer) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17) HAFZA Heavy Rocket Launcher / Assault Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 18) JANISSARY Boarding Shotgun + 1 TinBot A (Deflector L1) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 32) JANISSARY Akbar Doctor (MediKit) AP Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 41) JANISSARY Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 31) FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) NAJJARUN Engineer Rifle + Light Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17) HAFZA Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16) GROUP 2 4 3 YUAN YUAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 8) YUAN YUAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 8) BASHI BAZOUK AP Rifle / 2 Breaker Pistols, CC Weapon. (0 | 17) YUAN YUAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 8) 4 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army That'll give you an Iguana and a 5 man core (which is what I assume you're going for). The Iguana is your primary attack piece, the Janissaries storm and hold the armory. You've got an engineer to support them in the event of glue/em/hacking and they bring their own doctor. Hafza lt can hide as something else and you've got a package of annoying jerks with parachutes to harass your opponent. You could ditch the bashi and give your yuan yuan some DA weapons to smash panoplies, buy a nazmat for your engineer, and upgrade the plain boarding shotgun Janissary into a ML.
Well, with the given starting parameters (Janissary Core & Iguana), I'd go this way: Qapu Khalqi ────────────────────────────────────────────────── 10 JANISSARY Akbar Doctor (MediKit) AP Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 41) JANISSARY Missile Launcher / Pistol, CC Weapon. (2 | 37) JANISSARY Lieutenant AP Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. (0.5 | 36) JANISSARY Boarding Shotgun + 1 TinBot A (Deflector L1) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 32) JANISSARY AP Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 36) IGUANA HMG, Heavy Flamethrower / . (2 | 71) IGUANA OPERATOR HMG / Pistol, Knife. () FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) HAWWA' (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21) 5 SWC | 298 Points Open in Infinity Army But personally, I wouldn't advise mating a Janissary Fireteam with an Iguana.
I'd be worried that your janissaries are pretty vulnerable to hacking. If you ditch the Janissary Lt, you can get 2 hafza, one to be your lt, one to fill out the link as well as upgrade your shotgun to a shotgun w/ tinbot, but then you fall into 2 combat groups, which denies you the single group defense against command tokens.
Hacking could be a worry....but with the prevalence of KHD's now I see so few AHD, and if they are hacking you, they are not moving into the armory. Also that WIP14 Face to Face is good.
Iguana provides you with no Specialist, and fitting enough Orders into the list means you can't put any decent extras there. Fanous REMs are all nice, but my go-to Janissary Pain Train list gets a Sekban HRL Haris instead (and a sihab REM and al'Hawwa hacker). I might be biased of course, so don't consider my words for anything more than just an opinion. You could of course cheapen the Core by substituting one or two Janissaries with Hafzas, which in turn would put osme serious points back in your pocket, but personally I'm not a fan - the difference in survivability is just too big for my taste.
I hear what your saying - the Hafza issue is something I'm really going back and forth on. I'm really not a fan of Sekban though. If I take a Haris in QK it will be Odalisques w/Hafza FO. The only reason I say Iguana + Janissaires is because I haven't ever run a Heavy Link + TAG. I know Pan O can do a decent job of it, and I love that the Iguana pilot will eject as HI. ... But that is all just my silly brain trying to make Haqqislam better than every faction. Cuz we're the best!
I would play Iggy'n'Janbois core in Limited Insertion, not sure about two groups. Still prefer Sekbans as core.
Odalisque Haris is definitely an offensive one. Sekban Haris works decent as a defensive one, buildt around a HRL. BS 13 and Burst bonus? Devastating. Then give that a try :)
Qapu Khalqi──────────────────────────────────────────────────9 1 1 JANISSARY HMG / Pistol, CCW. (2 | 40) JANISSARY Akbar Doctor (MediKit) AP Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 41) JANISSARY Boarding Shotgun + 1 TinBot A (Deflector L1) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 32) HAFZA Heavy Rocket Launcher / Assault Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 18) HAFZA Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16) IGUANA HMG, Heavy Flamethrower / . (2 | 71) IGUANA OPERATOR HMG / Pistol, Knife. () LEILA SHARIF Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Shock Marksman Rifle, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20) DJANBAZAN Shock Marksman Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 29) NAJJARUN Engineer Rifle + Light Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17) NASMAT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) NASMAT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) YUAN YUAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 9) 6 SWC | 299 PointsOpen in Infinity Army How do you guys feel about this? Not sure if I love two nasmat.
Najjarun is unecessary. AHD programs are only temporary, and EM weapons are pretty rare.Those 23 points could be used for other things.
You think so? What about e/m grenades? I see them a lot. And my buddy runs assault hackers quite frequently. He's never been effective with them though, because I usually avoid HI and TAGs. What would you trade for it? Hawwa'?
Ya a Hawwa is a good option. AHD programs only last a limited time. If your being spec fired by EM grenades, you should be able to dodge better than them more often than not thanks to SSL2