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Perseus’ Inspiration?

Discussion in 'Nomads' started by eriqham, Apr 21, 2019.

  1. eriqham

    eriqham New Member

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    I might be dense, but the recent blog post about Perseus mentions that he’s inspired by a character from a ‘fantastic saga’ and I don’t know who they’re referring to.

    Any thoughts? Who are they talking about?

    Is it the helmet design?
     
  2. Tourniquet

    Tourniquet TJC Tech Support

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    like all of the greek characters in this game they are named after characters from the Illiad.
     
  3. Jason839

    Jason839 Well-Known Member

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    In Greek mythology Perseus was a hero who was cast out from the kingdom by his Grandfather. The grandfather was afraid that he would die by Perseus’s hands. Later on after accomplishing many great deeds Perseus did indeed kill his Grandfather by accident.

    So the Grandfather is ALEPH, afraid of the Myrmidons being corrupted by the enemy. Perseus is the hero cast out and in exile, building a reputation by performing great deeds with the nomads. And presumably, sometime in the future, Perseus May do something to cause serious harm to ALEPH.
     
  4. Civilized Barbarian

    Civilized Barbarian Praxis' Lead R&D Janitor

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    We can only dream.
     
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  5. loricus

    loricus Satellite Druid

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    "So this is the power of Black Labs. A blade so 'sharp' it cut through the cybersphere and killed every Posthuman jumper. No more left."
     
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  6. Hachiman Taro

    Hachiman Taro Inverted gadfly

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    Well if you think about the theories of Nomads joining / getting influenced by combined there are some fairly scary implications.

    It's probably the next most obvious reference to a literal Trojan horse getting a release...
     
  7. Civilized Barbarian

    Civilized Barbarian Praxis' Lead R&D Janitor

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    Oh man, could you imagine a CA agent managing to sepsitorize Aleph itself? Or if Aleph is a decentralized system maybe just a section of it would turn, resulting in possible civil war and some good scifi themes of human duality/infighting in the face of an external threat...

    And if we're going literal Trojan horse, I'm hoping for a biotech monstrosity with the AI motorcycle trait. Perseus needs a Praxis steed.
     
  8. Flipswitch

    Flipswitch Sepsitorised by Intent
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    Isn't that Odyseus too? though I flat out am ignorant of the myths and greek characters.
     
  9. Brother Smoke

    Brother Smoke Bureau Trimurti Representative

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    Odysseus is "Lost" and cut off from Aleph because it assumes he was about to be sepsitorized in Paradiso.
    My personal theory is that he is making his way back, much in the same way as his legend, and will reveal himself to save the day when it's dramatically pertinent.
     
  10. nehemiah

    nehemiah Well-Known Member

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    Perseus does not appear in the Iliad or the Odyssey. He has his own myth which is also were Andromeda comes from.
     
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  11. DukeofEarl

    DukeofEarl Well-Known Member

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    Yep. He actually predates the Homeric stories by a generation or two. I forget exactly how far off the top of my head, but he's one of the first generation of Hellenic heroes.
     
  12. Brother Smoke

    Brother Smoke Bureau Trimurti Representative

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    Yeah, Homer was pretty late in the whole Greek myth thing. In fact, the most significant work after the Iliad and the Odyssey is Virgil's Aeneid (I think, might be wrong), which tells the story of the surviving Trojans on their way to Italy to one day become the Romans
     
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  13. Aldo

    Aldo Well-Known Member

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    There's two possibilities.

    nº1 is that they are retarded and also think we are retarded and they mean the inspiration for Perseus is the Greek mythology Perseus

    nº2 is that they mean they took inspiration from one of the many characters from many fantasy sagas that are tortured and try to convinvce themselves that they are not working for "The Evil Whatever" but they might be but they think they are good and are expecting us to guess a character and series only by knowing his trope.


    I'm going to bet its something from Dan Simmon's Hyperion Cantos books because I've been told a bunch of other things from Infinity are references to that series, so its a safe bet.

    I would say "its some bullshit from Ghost in the Shell", but they said fantasy, so not that one.
     
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  14. Hecaton

    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    Non-Homeric Steel Phalanx heroes include Acmon, Andromeda, Thamyris, Atalanta, and Nesaie. So it's not all Homeric heroes, but Hellenic in general (and not even that, if we're counting Hector and Penthesilia etc.)
     
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  15. Brother Smoke

    Brother Smoke Bureau Trimurti Representative

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    Well, Hector and Penthesilea were Homeric figures, just on the side of the Trojans
     
  16. Hecaton

    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    Yeah but I wouldn't call them "Hellenic" is what I meant. Also Scylla was a monster not a person.
     
  17. Eruedraith

    Eruedraith New Member

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    It's Jango Fett from star wars, isn't it?
     
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  18. chaos11

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    That’s what I thought, too.
     
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  19. loricus

    loricus Satellite Druid

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    If that's the case it's not so blatantly obvious that it annoys me this time.
     
  20. xagroth

    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    Just remember that Odysseus is "officially DEAD" by CB's words. So the hype would need to be really high for them to revert what feels, to me, something that happened in the original RPG sessions that gave birth to the miniatures game.

    I can point to the Evolved Intelligence and it's "assimilation" of the UR Race, while using people as processing units for data (it is mentioned somewhere, I think), being a reference to the Cruciform's in Hyperion (Cruciform == cube, but with the extra of "whatever excess of processing power your brain has, the setting's AIs use it to run themselves"). But I can't remember any other, frankly.

    To be fair, the only Recreations are Hector, Achilles, Patroclus and Penthesilea, all the other characters are "base Myrmidons" (more or less) that "earned a name", so all Hellenic culture is available.

    The doubt is Perseus being or not a recreation, of course, Wikipedia:
    "From the Hesperides he received a knapsack (kibisis) to safely contain Medusa's head. Zeus gave him an adamantine sword (a Harpe) and Hades' helm of darkness to hide. Hermes lent Perseus winged sandals to fly, and Athena gave him a polished shield. Perseus then proceeded to the Gorgons' cave."
    And of course he would need to rescue andromeda, claiming her in marriage XD

    Heck, the pose and looks goes into there, so yeah XD