Good Morning, I have a question regarding Peripherals surrounding units that have deployment skills be it Forward Deployment, Infiltrate or Combat jump and the like. Do Peripherals roll a Confused Deployment roll of their own i.e they can pass or fail separate to their Parent unit OR do they take their parent unit's roll and subsequently abide by the result that this roll gives? Namely referring to units such as the Peacemaker and his Auxbot additionally the Delta Doctor and its Yudbot. Now I would garner that the skills on both Peripherals regardless of Synch'd and servant have the skills appropriate to their controlling unit. Now An Auxbot doesn't contribute an order however is activated using the same order as their parent unit and is able to declare and receive attacks - would this mean that either Option A applies being - Independent Rolls for both since it has a order spent on it vicariously through the parent unit apply OR; Option B applies being - A single roll both since a peripheral does not generate orders and is not directly having orders spent on it? The follow on effects of this would be quite simple - Option A - 1 succeeds, 1 doesn't For the auxbot you would require to place the other within ZoC IOT prevent disconnection, or not and the auxbot deploys into a disconnected state, if you are stubborn or you know you can reconnect shortly thereafter 1st turn and all that]. For the yudbot - 1 would merely deploy into DZ and the other would with no concern for Coherency due to Servant OR; Option B - If roll succeeds then no change to normal operations, but if fails then both land in your DZ.
It’s Option A, although you’re reasoning is wrong. The idea concerning who spent the order is meaningless. The remote and the other trooper are both being activated by the order, the declaring the skills, and performing them. So, barring any other rules (I can’t remember if Combat Jump has a special case for remotes), the remote and the controller roll separately and the player gets to deal with the results if one succeeds and the other fails. Edit: And, to be emphatic: You deploy both the controller and the remote, then you roll (independently for each), and then you fix the position of the model or models that fail.
It's not so much who spent the order but the definition of a trooper. Since a Trooper is someone who generates an Order - A Peripheral doesn't generate an order nor spends the order itself. For example if it's in disconnected state due to the peacemaker dying, enters disconnected but stays on the board, Machinist engineers and subsequently cancels the disconnected state. Auxbot doesn't generate an order of itself nor does it have a controller to allow it to spend orders
Excellent - So it is as i suspected Option A applies - Both roll. Just needed to clarify it up because if one person asked there'd be multiple people thinking the same question.
Also did some digging on deployment restrictions for the Peripheral if it is a Synchronized one. Turns out there are no restrictions that you can't break coherency. The Peripheral will just fail a Coherency Check and go Inactive the first time it is activated by Order or ARO. That means you can abandon the Peripheral in your DZ if only the Controller succeeds his roll. Or more importantly if only the Peripheral succeeds you can deploy it ahead in an advantaged position and recollect it with the Controller during the game at a later point when Coherency can be reinstated.
This is sort-of outside the scope of your question, but of curiosity, where does the "Confused Deployment" terminology come from? Is it in the wiki? Is it an N3 thing that doesn't exist anymore? I was under the impression that (circa N4) a Combat Jump roll just required STR (not STR-3) and that a failure required placing the figure within the deployment zone but also against a table edge (as opposed to what it reads for Confused Deployment as just in the deployment zone). I believe that Parachutist doesn't require a roll at all. The only skills I'm aware of in N4 possessing the -3 STR are Infiltration, and that's only if you attempt to deploy on your opponent's side of the table (not to deploy on your own side but outside your deployment zone).
Hey mate - Confused Deployment is from both Biotechvore and Panic Room - It is so that you don't just take a full infil, FD or AD list to bypass the intent of the mission and that is to get yourself out of the DZ
