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Outrage themed starco

Discussion in 'StarCo' started by Omen, Mar 28, 2023.

  1. Omen

    Omen Active Member

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    Hello readers

    so I am taking starco to tactical awareness spring offensive https://infinitytheuniverse.com/gam...70d0-tactical-awareness-spring-offensive-2023

    I am theming the list around the outrage team
    Using Domovoi as a digger with double chain rifles.. closest thing I could see to a dog warrior
    Nakadai As my senior massacre and my anaconda as stallion jack and Beba as my pilot.

    so list is
    OUTRAGED
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]9 [​IMG]2 [​IMG]2
    MOBILE BRIGADA Heavy Machine Gun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 40)
    ALGUACIL (Paramedic) Combi Rifle ( | MediKit) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 12)
    EMILY (Chain of Command) Combi Rifle, Grenade Launcher, E/M Grenade Launcher, Nanopulser, Flash Pulse / Assault Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 31)
    UHAHU (Hacker) Pitcher, D-Charges / Assault Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 18)
    SEÑOR MASSACRE Boarding Shotgun, Eclipse Grenades, E/M Grenades / Pistol, E/M CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 26)
    ANACONDA AP Spitfire, Light Flamethrower, Panzerfaust / AP CC Weapon. (1.5 | 56)
    [​IMG] OPERATOR Spitfire / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 0)
    IRMANDINHO Chain Rifle, D-Charges, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 8)
    KNAUF MULTI Sniper Rifle / AP Heavy Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 32)
    DIGGER Chain Rifle(+1B), Grenades / Pistol, AP CC Weapon(+1B). (0 | 14)
    HELLCAT Combi Rifle ( | Deployable Repeater) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 24)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]2 [​IMG]1
    BRAWLER (Lieutenant) Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 15)
    CSU Breaker Rifle, Nanopulser(+1B) / Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-6). (0 | 12)
    HARDCASE FRONTIERSMAN Tactical Bow, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 12)

    6 SWC | 300 Point

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    I'm shooting for theme , and looking for input for a second list, or alternate ideas
     
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  2. KGG

    KGG Well-Known Member

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    Ah, great idea!
    I like this a lot.

    I made a stupid list with all the named characters in, it's not very good, probably needs some work. The theme being a StarCo shareholder meeting that got interrupted:

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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]7 [​IMG]1 [​IMG]1
    UHAHU (Hacker) Pitcher, D-Charges / Assault Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 18)
    EMILY Breaker Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, Flash Pulse / Assault Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 24)
    RIOT GRRL Missile Launcher / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 32)
    AVICENNA Combi Rifle, Flash Pulse / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 27)
    DIGGER Chain Rifle(+1B), Grenades / Pistol, AP CC Weapon(+1B). (0 | 14)
    SPECTOR (Parachutist, Combat Jump) Boarding Shotgun, Drop Bears / Pistol, E/M CC Weapon, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 33)
    FIDDLER (Climbing Plus) Contender(+1B), Drop Bears, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 42)
    [​IMG] 2X JACKBOT Vulkan Shotgun / . (0 | 14)
    TRANSDUCTOR ZOND Flash Pulse / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 7)
    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]6 [​IMG]1
    DIGGER Chain Rifle(+1B), Grenades / Pistol, AP CC Weapon(+1B). (0 | 14)
    KNAUF MULTI Sniper Rifle / AP Heavy Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 32)
    SEÑOR MASSACRE Breaker Combi Rifle, Eclipse Grenades, E/M Grenades / Pistol, E/M CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 28)
    ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 10)
    ALGUACIL (Lieutenant) Combi Rifle / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1 | 10)
    SALYUT (Deactivator, Repeater) ( ) / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 8)
    4.5 SWC | 299 Points
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  3. csjarrat

    csjarrat Well-Known Member

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    Theme looks good mate, you've got a decent spread of tools to utilise. Give it a few runs out on-table and see how you get on
     
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  4. Brokenwolf

    Brokenwolf Well-Known Member

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    I love the theme! So the Missions are:
    • Firefight
    • Acquisition
    • Capture & Protect

    You might wish to play Nakadai as Raul Spector as that might be a closer match to the advanced deployment options and mimetism -6 of an Obiwaban.
    Because of Firefight, you also might want a heavier LT. What about this:

    OUTRAGED Suggestion?
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]8 [​IMG]3 [​IMG]2
    MOBILE BRIGADA Heavy Machine Gun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 40)
    MOBILE BRIGADA (Lieutenant) MULTI Rifle, Light Flamethrower / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 35)
    DAKTARI Combi Rifle ( | MediKit) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 14)
    DIGGER Chain Rifle(+1B), Grenades / Pistol, AP CC Weapon(+1B). (0 | 14)
    ANACONDA AP Spitfire, Light Flamethrower, Panzerfaust / AP CC Weapon. (1.5 | 56)
    [​IMG] OPERATOR Spitfire / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 0)
    IRMANDINHO Chain Rifle, D-Charges, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 8)
    EMILY (Chain of Command) Combi Rifle, Grenade Launcher, E/M Grenade Launcher, Nanopulser, Flash Pulse / Assault Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 31)
    KNAUF MULTI Sniper Rifle / AP Heavy Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 32)
    UHAHU (Hacker) Pitcher, D-Charges / Assault Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 18)
    SPECTOR (Parachutist, Combat Jump) Boarding Shotgun, Drop Bears / Pistol, E/M CC Weapon, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 33)
    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]1 [​IMG]1
    HARDCASE FRONTIERSMAN Tactical Bow, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 12)
    TRANSDUCTOR ZOND Flash Pulse / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 7)
    5.5 SWC | 300 Points
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    This gives you a 4 man Link team and a 3 man Outrage Haris that turns Knauf into a terror.
     
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  5. Savnock

    Savnock Nerfherder

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    Great theme ! It's really fun to play the Outrage characters. It's one of the main reasons to play StarCo (the other being Raoul Spector rampages).

    Your first draft list has good elements but the order grouping could be more advantageous. You've got a -lot- of order-hungry troops in your first group, not much in the second. I'd remix the elements a bit (see example list below).
    - The easy choice there would be putting the Anaconda in the second group with 5 or 6 orders to power it. You want to attack -and then retreat- within those 6 orders if you can, never leaving the Anaconda out to be counterattacked easily. Always pull back to the protection of your hacking bubble, or behind your camo skirmishers, etc.

    I also agree with Brokenwolf that an obvious Lt. is not great for Firefight, but honestly even a Brigada will go down to a determined assassination. Security Through Obscurity is my usual way of dealing with crappy Nomad Lt. choices. That means taking at least 2 Lt. options, and spacing them out with good protection on each (for example a mine -and- a protecting trooper). The opponent has a 50/50 chance of wasting all that effort to dig your possible Lt. out. The other benefit is you save points to make other things even nastier.

    Also Knauf is such a badass shooter, you don't really need him, a Brigada HMG, AND an Anaconda Spitfire in the same order group IMO. I pulled him into the main link, with the cheaper Emily, Massacre, Digger, and Paramedic. This link should move in and hit HARD, then pull to a safe place with the last 1-2 orders. They will be very very hard to get rid of if played well. Don't use Knauf as an ARO shooter if you go second unless you really really have to (if your opponent is playing Kosmoflot, CHA, or vanilla Ariadna, you do have to unfortunately.

    Then you have a smaller Haris with Uhahu, a Mobile Brigada with Tinbot -6, and a cheap Brawler HRL for ARO protection of your rear lines and any firelane you can't cover with the Knauf team etc. For Firefight, you want Uhahu in the rear, but you can still use her Pitchers to set up a nice hacking network, or to hack something to assist your Anaconda etc. She also really benefits from TInbot -6, and a Brigada Multirifle is actually areally good close-in ARO weapon, and a good assault weapon if your main link dies and it's time for Plan B.

    The really fun thing is that you can remix almost all of the units in the Core and Haris teams to meet whatever challenge you face. So for a mission where you really -do- need a hacker in the front lines, you could put Uhahu and the Brigada Tinbot back into the main link, maybe splitting the Brawler and Emily off to a Haris that you can really attack with well.

    I did have to sacrifice the Hellcat and the Hardcase to get more orders (two remotes) and a very defensively useful Al Hawwa FO. That's really just extra stuff though, so if you prefer the Hellcat for Firefight, or a Hardcase, you could change all that and not lose the functional core of the list.

    Oh, and also agreed with @Brokenwolf that Spector is a good use of Nakadai. I would make a list built around him your second list choice. Definitely put him in an order group with 8-9 orders minimum. And have another unit around to help him out if he gets stuck... the Anaconda can be good for that, shooting people in the back after they have turned around to deal with Spector.

    OUTRAGED Remix
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]9 [​IMG]1
    KNAUF MULTI Sniper Rifle / AP Heavy Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 32)
    EMILY Breaker Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, Flash Pulse / Assault Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 24)
    ALGUACIL (Paramedic) Combi Rifle ( | MediKit) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 12)
    SEÑOR MASSACRE Boarding Shotgun, Eclipse Grenades, E/M Grenades / Pistol, E/M CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 26)
    DIGGER Chain Rifle(+1B), Grenades / Pistol, AP CC Weapon(+1B). (0 | 14)
    TRANSDUCTOR ZOND Flash Pulse / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 7)
    UHAHU (Hacker) Pitcher, D-Charges / Assault Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 18)
    MOBILE BRIGADA MULTI Rifle, Light Flamethrower ( | TinBot: Firewall [-6]) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 37)
    BRAWLER Heavy Rocket Launcher / Assault Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 16)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]5 [​IMG]2 [​IMG]1
    ANACONDA AP Spitfire, Light Flamethrower, Panzerfaust / AP CC Weapon. (1.5 | 56)
    [​IMG] OPERATOR Spitfire / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 0)
    ALGUACIL (Lieutenant) Combi Rifle / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1 | 10)
    ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 10)
    IRMANDINHO Chain Rifle, D-Charges, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 8)
    SALYUT (Deactivator, Repeater) ( ) / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 8)
    HAWWA' (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun, Flash Pulse, D-Charges / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 22)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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  6. Omen

    Omen Active Member

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    Thanks everyone.

    so Ive done some list tweaking
    Nakadai as my Raoul Spector really liked that.

    Outraged 2.0
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]8 [​IMG]1 [​IMG]1
    ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 10)
    ALGUACIL (Paramedic) Combi Rifle ( | MediKit) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 12)
    EMILY (Chain of Command) Combi Rifle, Grenade Launcher, E/M Grenade Launcher, Nanopulser, Flash Pulse / Assault Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 31)
    KNAUF MULTI Sniper Rifle / AP Heavy Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 32)
    DIGGER Chain Rifle(+1B), Grenades / Pistol, AP CC Weapon(+1B). (0 | 14)
    SPECTOR (Parachutist, Combat Jump) Boarding Shotgun, Drop Bears / Pistol, E/M CC Weapon, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 33)
    BRAWLER Heavy Rocket Launcher / Assault Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 16)
    UHAHU (Hacker) Pitcher, D-Charges / Assault Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 18)
    MOBILE BRIGADA MULTI Rifle, Light Flamethrower ( | TinBot: Firewall [-6]) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 37)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4 [​IMG]2 [​IMG]1
    BRAWLER (Lieutenant) Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 15)
    CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-6). (0 | 11)
    ANACONDA AP Spitfire, Light Flamethrower, Panzerfaust / AP CC Weapon. (1.5 | 56)
    [​IMG] OPERATOR Spitfire / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 0)
    IRMANDINHO Chain Rifle, D-Charges, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 8)
    TRANSDUCTOR ZOND Flash Pulse / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 7)

    5.5 SWC | 300 Points

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    running 2 duo,s in group 2
    Uhaahu with the mobile and brawler
    and 5 man emily knuaf Digger (Domovoi )
    and the 2 agluicils
     
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