Hello, Aleph is my second faction, and as with my main one, I'm looking to build a list as versatile as possible, who can do well in most scenarios. Operations Subsection of the S.S.S. ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 10 DEVA Lieutenant (Sensor) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24) DEVA (Assault Hacking Device UPGRADE: Lightning) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 28) CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) DAKINI Tacbot Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 15) DAKINI Tacbot Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 13) DAKINI Tacbot Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 13) DAKINI Tacbot Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 13) SHUKRA (Chain of Command) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25) YADU (NCO) HMG / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (2 | 41) GARUDA Tacbot HMG / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 30) GROUP 2 6 PROXY Mk.1 Engineer Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) PROXY Mk.2 MULTI Sniper Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 24) PROXY Mk.5 (Forward Observer) 2 Submachine Guns, Nanopulser, E/M Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) DALETH Rebot Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 17) LAMEDH Rebot Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) LAMEDH Rebot Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) NETROD . (0 | 4) NETROD . (0 | 4) 5.5 SWC | 299 Points Open in Infinity Army
Minimum I'd say is to swap the HMG garuda for the spitfire one, and use the points to add a 360 Warcor to the second group. The spitfire has better range bands for a droptrooper, and the warcor flashpulse gets you another flashpulse and potentially another order for the second group. I'll admit to being confused by your first group. What is the dakini fireteam supporting? They've got no firepower to aid with the fireteam bonuses. I'd be inclined to switch the AHD deva for the spitfire deva, dropping a dakini to pay for it. Then, swap the Mk2 Proxy to the AHD, and use the SWC savings to upgrade a dakini to a HMG. This has gotten you two more high-burst guns, a better deployment method for the AHD in the list, and you still have a few points left to tweak something else, such as adding a Yudbot for the engineer. Example: Spoiler: Sample List Operations Subsection of the S.S.S. ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 9 DEVA Lieutenant (Sensor) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24) DEVA (Multispectral Visor L2) Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 33) CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) DAKINI Tacbot HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 21) DAKINI Tacbot Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 13) DAKINI Tacbot Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 15) SHUKRA (Chain of Command) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25) YADU (NCO) HMG / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (2 | 41) GARUDA Tacbot Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 28) GROUP 2 6 1 PROXY Mk.1 Engineer Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) PROXY Mk.2 Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21) PROXY Mk.5 (Forward Observer) 2 Submachine Guns, Nanopulser, E/M Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) DALETH Rebot Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 17) LAMEDH Rebot Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) LAMEDH Rebot Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) NETROD . (0 | 4) NETROD . (0 | 4) WARCOR (360º Visor) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3) YUDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) 6 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army
Thanks you for your advices, I really like your list ! I was thinking about this one too, what do you think ( I like having a 2W LT and a sniper, but I lose a high-burst gun, I don't know if it's worth it) : GROUP 1 9 SHAKTI Lieutenant Hacker (Killer Hacking Device. UPGRADE: Sucker Punch) Mk12, E/Marat / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (0 | 40) DEVA (Multispectral Visor L2) Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 33) DEVA (Sensor) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24) CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) DAKINI Tacbot Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 15) DAKINI Tacbot HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 21) DAKINI Tacbot Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 13) GARUDA Tacbot Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 28) SHUKRA (Chain of Command) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25) GROUP 2 7 PROXY Mk.1 Engineer Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) PROXY Mk.2 MULTI Sniper Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 24) PROXY Mk.5 (Forward Observer) 2 Submachine Guns, Nanopulser, E/M Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) LAMEDH Rebot Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) LAMEDH Rebot Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) DALETH Rebot Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 17) NETROD . (0 | 4) NETROD . (0 | 4) YUDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) 5 SWC | 299 Points Open in Infinity Army
Shakti's not bad, and I've found she can hold her own usually, but it definitely places more importance on the fireteam guns for attacking. The Daleth has sensor, so the sensor Dakini gives you some flex in the list. Could swap it & the Yudbot for either Trisha (another engineer w/breaker combi rifle, and counts as a Deva), Deva+Devabot (adds a flame thrower to the list), or for a Danavas hacker to add supportware to the Dakini HMG. I also noticed on the last list that it's counting the orders in the second group wrong, there's actually one less than listed. I's a bug I've seen before with the Proxys.
Sorry, I didn't catch that sentence. Which sensor Dakini? Dakini don't have access to sensor. Or did you mean the Deva sensor? So I could swap the Deva sensor + the Yudbot for Trisha/Deva + Dakini Bot or Danava?
I like the second list better than the first one. Mostly because your core team in the first list doesn’t have an SWC weapon at all. I do really like the Deva assault hacker in the core team. I’ve found that lightning, sixth sense, and wip15 make it a hard target to crack. I recommend finding a way to bring a Danavas. She’s fantastic for supportware and she also brings white noise. With only one trooper with a marker state and zero specialists with marker stares, you may want the ability to block LoF from some of those linked MSV snipers. I’d also note, that while the Daleth is a fantastic quick specialist, I don’t see a need for the sensor deva and a remote with sensor. Shakti has been a good LT for me. She’s pretty good at a lot of things. She can gunfight, isolate strikers, and capture objectives. Plus she’s immune to jammers.
Thanks you for your answer. So maybe something like this, what do you think : Operations Subsection of the S.S.S. ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 9 SHAKTI Lieutenant Hacker (Killer Hacking Device. UPGRADE: Sucker Punch) Mk12, E/Marat / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (0 | 40) SHUKRA (Chain of Command) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25) DANAVAS Hacker (Hacking Device Plus. UPGRADE: Maestro) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25) DEVA (Multispectral Visor L2) Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 33) CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) DAKINI Tacbot Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 15) DAKINI Tacbot HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 21) DAKINI Tacbot Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 13) GARUDA Tacbot Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 28) GROUP 2 6 PROXY Mk.1 Engineer Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) PROXY Mk.2 MULTI Sniper Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 24) PROXY Mk.5 (Forward Observer) 2 Submachine Guns, Nanopulser, E/M Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) LAMEDH Rebot Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) LAMEDH Rebot Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) DALETH Rebot Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 17) NETROD . (0 | 4) NETROD . (0 | 4) YUDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) 5.5 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army
That looks good! The biggest problem you’ll run into, which is one you’ll often find with OSS, is that once your big guns are bypassed (dead or LoF is blocked) you may find that you have trouble keeping models alive. For that problem, I’ve found that Kiran Bots (with the Arjuna), Devabots, and Naga minelayers are the most useful tools for shoring up defenses. None of them are cheap though, which is problematic.
Hmmm...I don't really see what I could remove to add one of those. Maybe the Shukra? CoC is less important now that i have an ARM 3 W 2 LT. That gives me 25 points + 3 points for the Yud, so I could bring a Deva+Devabot or a Naga minelayer instead. OSS STANDART ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 9 SHAKTI Lieutenant Hacker (Killer Hacking Device. UPGRADE: Sucker Punch) Mk12, E/Marat / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (0 | 40) DANAVAS Hacker (Hacking Device Plus. UPGRADE: Maestro) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25) NAGA (Minelayer) Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27) DEVA (Multispectral Visor L2) Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 33) CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) DAKINI Tacbot Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 15) DAKINI Tacbot HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 21) DAKINI Tacbot Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 13) GARUDA Tacbot Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 28) GROUP 2 6 PROXY Mk.1 Engineer Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) PROXY Mk.2 MULTI Sniper Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 24) PROXY Mk.5 (Forward Observer) 2 Submachine Guns, Nanopulser, E/M Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) LAMEDH Rebot Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) LAMEDH Rebot Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) DALETH Rebot Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 17) NETROD . (0 | 4) NETROD . (0 | 4) 6 SWC | 299 Points Open in Infinity Army
