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Onyx for Hunting party

Discussion in 'Combined Army' started by Leviathan, Mar 25, 2018.

  1. Leviathan

    Leviathan Hungry Caliban

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    Hunting party is one of those crazy specific missions you have to work hard to build for, and I'm struggling to find the right balance. I have done a bit of testing with a few lists - I've tried stacking MULTI weapons for stun ammo, I've tried just ignoring the mission and getting a cheeky last-turn score. All my testing has lead me to two different lists, but it's hard to pick between the two.


    [​IMG] Hunting party A
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    [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] KERR-NAU (UPGRADE: White Noise) Plasma Rifle + Pitcher, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
    [​IMG] UNIDRON K1 Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 16)
    [​IMG] UNIDRON Plasma Carbine / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 14)
    [​IMG] SPHINX Spitfire, 2 Heavy Flamethrowers / EXP CCW. (2 | 106)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] SCINDRON Flash Pulse / Knife. (0 | 0)
    [​IMG] UMBRA SAMARITAN Lieutenant Spitfire, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Vorpal CC Weapon. (1 | 44)
    [​IMG] IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    [​IMG] IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    [​IMG] MED-TECH OBSIDON MEDCHANOID Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    [​IMG] SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] ÍMETRON . (0 | 4)
    [​IMG] MALIGNOS Hacker (EI Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 41)

    4 SWC | 299 Points
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    Malignos and Samaritan both get ADHLs and are the primary specialist hunters. Samaritan has a massive toolkit of equipment and abilities and stealth + superjump means he can usually get into a good position behind an enemy before hitting them with glue or the stun pistol. Malignos has the awesome power of the surprise shot TO infiltrator, and the ability to IMM-1 or Isolate anything hackable.

    Sphinx and Kerr-Nau are responsible for shutting down enemy troublemakers (and between the two of them can do a pretty amazing job), with the bonus that Kerr-Nau can knock out enemy hackers for the samaritan to glue down later.

    On the flip side, its not got much else besides those guys, and it relies a lot on the alpha strike - which isn't so great in a mission where you really want to go second, not first.

    Dr Worm is there to help bust my specialists out of IMM-2 and Isolate, run for the midfield consoles, and to give me everything I need to cover all possible Classifieds.



    [​IMG] Hunting Party B
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    [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] UMBRA SAMARITAN Lieutenant Spitfire, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Vorpal CC Weapon. (1 | 44)
    [​IMG] XEODRON Red Fury, Blitzen / Heavy Pistol. (1 | 59)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] STALDRON Flash Pulse / Knife. (0 | 0)
    [​IMG] XEODRON Red Fury, Blitzen / Heavy Pistol. (1 | 59)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] STALDRON Flash Pulse / Knife. (0 | 0)
    [​IMG] MALIGNOS Hacker (EI Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 41)
    [​IMG] MALIGNOS Hacker (EI Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 41)
    [​IMG] ÍMETRON . (0 | 4)
    [​IMG] ÍMETRON . (0 | 4)
    [​IMG] IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    [​IMG] IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    [​IMG] MED-TECH OBSIDON MEDCHANOID Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    [​IMG] SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)

    4 SWC | 299 Points
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    Same sources of ADHL and hacking as last time, but with room for two surprise shot Malignos now. Xeodrons make a solid and very threatening escort for the Samaritan, and with Blitzen they also have a long range source of IMM and Isolate thanks to EM/2, all very important for this mission. Samaritan can slip away with the LT order to attack the enemy LT or specialists from unexpected angles, or stay with the TAGs for the ARO threat.

    On the other hand... Xeo's just aren't that amazing, and suffer at long range, and I'm gonna be more worried about enemy hackers and MSV.

    Dr Worm is there to help bust my specialists out of IMM-2 and Isolate, run for the midfield consoles, and to give me everything I need to cover all possible Classifieds.



    I'm struggling to pick between the two. One big worry is fireteams - I'm not sure i really have the tools to deal with HI teams, or deal with enemy TO.


    Hunting Party is such a complex mission. I'm keen to hear from the rest of the brains trust.

    (ps. before you suggest it, I don't have Drone Remotes available)
     
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  2. Styx

    Styx Cat.IE~~

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    Ill recomend for you this on hunting party:
    [​IMG] Briscon - Hunting party
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    [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] SPHINX Spitfire, 2 Heavy Flamethrowers / EXP CCW. (2 | 106)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] SCINDRON Flash Pulse / Knife. (0 | 0)
    [​IMG] IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    [​IMG] IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    [​IMG] MED-TECH OBSIDON MEDCHANOID Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    [​IMG] SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] ÍMETRON . (0 | 4)
    [​IMG] SURYAT Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower + TinBot A (Deflector L1) / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 38)
    [​IMG] SURYAT Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower + TinBot A (Deflector L1) / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 38)
    [​IMG] Bit Hacker (UPGRADE: Expel) Submachine Gun + Pitcher, Deployable Repeater + KISS! / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] KISS! Adhesive Launcher / Electric Pulse. (- | 4)
    [​IMG] NOCTIFER Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 24)
    [​IMG] NOCTIFER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24)

    3.5 SWC | 300 Points

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    Hided LT on TO marker with ADHL, hided deploy on 2scnd Headcuarter command troop on deployment covering dr.worm+Bit and another non-specialist as hunter carryng with another ADHL, Suryats Duo to hunt with Sphinx as a shock troop with veteran + ADHL, Bit bcs have Kiss on IMP-1 state with ADHL. You have 5 troops with ADHL, so don't need the stun pistols, if u need, can switch to 1 serveant to up 1 Suryat with MULTI rifle for shock ammo or DA on ARO, but see tis example; don't need stun guns, that ADHL so great to secure the INM-2 targets when can carry 5 profiles with that weapon.
     
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  3. xagroth

    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    Hunting Party:
    • As few Specialists as possible, bring engineers if possible.
    • Veteran, Elite and Headquarters Troops get Adhesive Launchers
    • You want to "soft kill" everything, hoepfully with permanent solutions: Isolated and Imm2 are preferred.
    So for troops that get an Adhesive Launcher:
    • Malignos and Suryat are Veterans
    • Both Umbra are Elites
    • Noctifers are Headquarters
    • Kiss (Bit's remote) has one natively
    For troops that cause an IMM2:
    • Electric Pulse
      • All remotes (Kiss, S3 drones, Unidrones, servitor wormlings...)
    • E/M ammo (on HI/TAG)
    For troops that cause Isolated (mostly to HI/Tag):
    • AHD and H+ have access to Oblivion, thus allowing them to Isolate the enemy.
      • Umbra Legates H+, AHD: Fraacta, Malignos, Umbra Samaritan, Rodok...
    • Xeodrons have access to Blitzen (E/M2 ammo panzerfaust)
    So, offensive troops: Umbra (legate H+ and Samaritan AHD), Xeodrons (up to a point), Malignos AHD, Suryats
    Deffensive Troops: All Morat troops are inmunne to Isolated, thus Rodoks and Suryats. Then, Dr Worm (and specops Engineer if allowed).

    For me, an option 1 list would be a Rodok Fireteam/Suryat Duo Dr Worm:
    [​IMG] Onyx Contact Force
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    [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] SURYAT Lieutenant HMG + TinBot A (Deflector L1) / Pistol, CCW. (2 | 45)
    [​IMG] SURYAT MULTI Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 41)
    [​IMG] RODOK HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 27)
    [​IMG] RODOK Hacker (EI Assault Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25)
    [​IMG] RODOK Hacker (EI Assault Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25)
    [​IMG] RODOK Hacker (EI Assault Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25)
    [​IMG] RODOK Paramedic (MediKit) Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
    [​IMG] MED-TECH OBSIDON MEDCHANOID Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    [​IMG] SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] UMBRA LEGATE Hacker (Hacking Device Plus) Boarding Shotgun, Flash Pulse / Pistol, DA CCW. (0.5 | 43)
    [​IMG] Bit Hacker (UPGRADE: Expel) Submachine Gun + Pitcher, Deployable Repeater + KISS! / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] KISS! Adhesive Launcher / Electric Pulse. (- | 4)
    6 SWC | 300 Points
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    Change option: swap Suryat's Lt.

    You are only vulnerable to the IMM1 & 2 state here, but IMM1 can be removed by Reset, so protect Dr Worm and kill at will. The H+ Legate has a much better array of weapons that one might think: the ADL has the same range bands as the Combi rifle but for the first (where the Legate has a +6 by the Boarding Shotgun) and you can deploy repeaters and pitchers without much effort thanks to Bit, 3 Rodok hackers and the Umbra H+.
    Also, you have very good order economy with the Duo and the Core, but the main vulnerability is that the Suryats are the only Lt option you can deploy here (the Rodok Lt has a profile not inlcuded... you would need to sacrifice an AHD or two to compensante), something to have in mind for other missions... then again, LoL still lets you have the Rodoks and surviving Suryat orders as regular.
     
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  4. paraelix

    paraelix Well-Known Member

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    Leviathan forgot to mention a deep dislike of current Morat sculpts ;)
     
  5. krossaks

    krossaks Well-Known Member

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    noctifer leutinent thats all, rest suryats and umbras to hunt. A second Noctifer with missile launcher is good to
     
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  6. Leviathan

    Leviathan Hungry Caliban

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    incidentally I found both N2 Suryats buried at the bottom of my foam case.



    I also came up with this one...
    Would have totally made the Noctifer the LT, but this is max SWC and I dunno about the Umbra without the spitfire.

    [​IMG] Hunting Party D
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    [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] UMBRA SAMARITAN Lieutenant Spitfire, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Vorpal CC Weapon. (1 | 44)
    [​IMG] NOCTIFER Missile Launcher / Assault Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 32)
    [​IMG] NOCTIFER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24)
    [​IMG] MALIGNOS Hacker (EI Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 41)
    [​IMG] MALIGNOS Hacker (EI Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 41)
    [​IMG] Bit Hacker (UPGRADE: Expel) Submachine Gun + Pitcher, Deployable Repeater + KISS! / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] KISS! Adhesive Launcher / Electric Pulse. (- | 4)
    [​IMG] OVERDRON 2 Heavy Rocket Launchers / . (2 | 57)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] STALDRON Flash Pulse / Knife. (0 | 0)
    [​IMG] IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    [​IMG] IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    [​IMG] MED-TECH OBSIDON MEDCHANOID Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)

    6 SWC | 299 Points
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    ...but now I'm wondering if i can revamp those two oldschool Suryats.
     
  7. xagroth

    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    Harder to hunt, true, but remember you have to point at that TO marker and identify it as your Lt... and the Suryat HMG can use the Lt order aggresively, and the only way to "hunt" him is to manage an IMM1 without reset, or a IMM2 you can't remove with a servitor worm (not to mention, it has better PH than the Noctifer).

    I would assume the enemy will try to bring an MSV2 able to hunt, however, so I prefer protection through firepower, Morat Style XD
     
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