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Oddity I can no longer unsee

Discussion in 'Access Guide to the Human Sphere' started by leigen_zero, Sep 21, 2018.

  1. leigen_zero

    leigen_zero Morat Pacifist

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    Excuse the shitposting, but I just thought I'd share something I can no longer unsee that I think you should all suffer from now

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    Look closely, the elbow pad isn't attached to anything, it just sits there on his elbow, floating there on it's own, like some weird tactical nipple tassel applied in the wrong place. Now you can't unsee it either

    Now, I recognise that CB sculptors aren't infallable so stuff like this is going to happen, and I won't get wound up over it, but does anyone else have any minor oddities that they've noticed and now can't un-notice?
     
  2. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Like the Pneumarch's giant gold bow tie? CVB280685-0679.jpg
     
  3. RogueJello

    RogueJello Well-Known Member

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    If I was painting the Korgat model I'd just paint that section dark, like there's some sort of elastic material behind it.
     
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  4. chromedog

    chromedog Less than significant minion

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    I need to see the "hidden angle" view. The reverse view of the one on the right. Otherwise, it may well be attached to the vambrace. (In the same way that Wonder Woman's knee guards are attached to her boots in the DC movies.).
     
  5. Solodice

    Solodice Freshly Squeezed Troll

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    Combi + LSG Bagh Mari from the group box is missing his boot knife... he's not wielding it so he must of lost it (it's CAD laziness as the other Bagh Mari has his knife drawn and the two share the same set of legs).
     
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  6. paraelix

    paraelix Seed Embryo Scholar

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    You're assuming it isn't just bolted directly into his elbow? :D
     
  7. xagroth

    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    Elbow Grease was a figure of speech, until the Morat came to the Human Sphere and we discovered their mechanics needed replacements for the elbows...
    Tennis is no joke among them!
     
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  8. Mob of Blondes

    Mob of Blondes Well-Known Member

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    What could have been...
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    What we got...
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  9. Paladin

    Paladin Well-Known Member

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    The Mormaers Arm Protection shield is on the wrong side.
    It will be really dificult to hold the grip with this Teseum Plate straped to your dominant hand.
     
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  10. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    More importantly, the belt feed is going to strip the flesh off his arm as it goes into the weapon. You do NOT wrap an ammo belt around your arm unless you want to lose that arm!

    In Jin-Roh, the armor plate had a notch in it to smooth the belt to the MG42.
     
  11. Paladin

    Paladin Well-Known Member

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    It might work, since he has a Armorplate on his forearm.
    But why use a loose Belt in the first place.
    I am no soldier, but i think it would be much better to use a beltcase/drum like every modern MG uses. And the MG42 also.
     
  12. Teslarod

    Teslarod when in doubt, Yeet

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    Guys, you are right that the plate is on the wrong arm.
    But you got the reason backwards.

    Like a Riot shield used for Swat operations you're going to want that shield raised to minimise exposure towards where you point your gun.
    That's why it should not be on the arm pulling the trigger, but on the one raised to support the weapon, to protect your face and vitals towards the front.
    What makes it even more funny is that she shield has a notch where the weapon is supposed to lock into it to make that easier.

    As for the Vet Kazak's feeding chain, that could actually work.
    The feeding belt variant he is using is not moving as one piece, just the inner part is. Since the Vet Kazak is a HI, the areas where he has contact with the moving parts of his belt could just slide along the armour plates (in theory).
    So while not very pratctical, it's not quite as dumb as the shield on the wrong arm.
     
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  13. leigen_zero

    leigen_zero Morat Pacifist

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    I actually laughed audibly at that, in work...
     
  14. Commoner1

    Commoner1 Well-Known Member

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    Never - do - this - again! :see_no_evil:
     
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  15. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    Loose belts are better for a tripod position, or for a gun you want to fire absolutely continuously. You just hook the tail end of one belt to the start of the next one.

    The MG42 snail drums were only 50 round belts (MG34s had a 75rd belt in the double-snail, but that doesn't work with MG42s and was quickly withdrawn from service even for MG34s), while current NATO belts are 100rds if the armorer hasn't linked the two belts in the ammo can. If you're really setting things up, you pre-rig your 200rd ammo cans as a single continuous belt with the tail end that flops to the outside (hard to explain in words, but you're setting up the end of the belt so that you can hook the next belt onto it without stopping the gun).

    Actual drum magazines suck ass for reliability. My roommate went through 3 of them trying to get a single 9mm drum to work, but he finally gave up and went with stick magazines. The only reliable 'drum' type is the Beta magazine, and that's a very fancy stick magazine.
     
  16. Mob of Blondes

    Mob of Blondes Well-Known Member

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    The issue is that there is no enough space for armour, feeder and meat & bones. Goes with the case of helmet being smaller than bare head that other miniatures have. It probably has more bullets outside than in the backpack, and they have to be full rubber with rubber links, to deform over the shoulder and stretch before entering.
    The real thing depicted in the other miniature also has a solid feeder, and doesn't do dumb things.
    Sneak the belt down in one side, to the bottom of box, then fill up in zig zag so you end in the other side.
    Code:
    ## Machine gun
    ## o--<-<-<-<-<-<-,  ,-o Next box goes here
        ,->->->->->->-'  |
        `-<-<-<-<-<-<-,  v
        ,->->->->->->-'  |
        `-<-<-<-<-<-<---/
    
     
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  17. Del S

    Del S Tunguskaball

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    The ammo belt thing isn't a new concept... just these days it's attached to guns that work. That poor AR-10 there just wasn't very reliable as an LMG at all. Still makes more sense than the VKaz HMG feed.

    EDIT: Also, please do not giggle too much at "potent .222" ammo.
     
  18. Solar

    Solar Well-Known Member

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    I read somewhere that in Vietnam, SEALs would cut open a Stoner ammo can and wild some extra length onto it, so you could have like 200 rounds in there for continuous fire.
     
  19. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    Exactly!

    Should have tried doing it as a code, was trying to find pictures of it... Thanks!


    I think you're off by an order of magnitude. Standard disintegrating-link belts were 100, easily linked into longer lengths of any arbitrary size. Two 5.56mm ammo cans is 1000 rounds. SEALs believe in all the dakka, even if they require assistance standing up because they are wearing 80lbs of ammo.


    Also, note that even @Del S picture has an ammo chute, not a loose belt. A loose belt allows gunk to get into the weapon!

    My new YJ HMGs have all been converted to have an ammo box and a belt going up into the weapon. Box is just a piece of plasticard, the belt is a Flames of War bit.
     
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  20. leigen_zero

    leigen_zero Morat Pacifist

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    Folks discussing the feasibility of the vet kazaks ammo feed, you kinda missed one important detail: the ammo belt enters the armour between the shoulder and the shoulder plate...

    And exits underneath both the elbow and the shoulder plate, so somewhere along their journey those bullets are travelling through the poor chaps arm!
     
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