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Oblivion

Discussion in 'Rules' started by Triumph, Oct 5, 2020.

  1. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    Did we get a ruling yet on whether Oblivion was Burst 1 or 2? My PDF lists it as both.
     
  2. boquepasha

    boquepasha ALEPH is love, ALEPH is life, ALEPH is your friend

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    I'd like to know about this too. Both the spanish and english PDF list this program as a B1 weapon on the reference table, but B2 on its ruling. The army also shows it as B1. Is it a typo or is it really B1?
     
  3. tox

    tox SorriBarai
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    Given the description in the rules (it clearly states B2), you should consider the table a typo UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE
     
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  4. boquepasha

    boquepasha ALEPH is love, ALEPH is life, ALEPH is your friend

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    Should we then report it as an Army 7 bug? Because it shows there too. I don't know if it's already been reported.
     
  5. tox

    tox SorriBarai
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    At least a gozzilion times
     
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  6. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    @HellLois this one could use an answer before I have to make my own ruling on the weekend for a tournament, which given my luck will be wrong.
     
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  7. Armihaul

    Armihaul Well-Known Member

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    until there is a ruling, I would use the harmless error approach. In this case, R1
     
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  8. ldgif

    ldgif Well-Known Member
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    This one really needs an answer, I don’t get the radio silence on it. My gut says B1, just because B3 Mary Problems would be “fun”. I guess it would make her an “Uberhacker” though.
     
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  9. Stampysaur

    Stampysaur Wallace is my LT

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    I feel like the fact the rules list it as multiple rolls means the chart is incorrect. applicable portions bolded. It is a lot of rules that make no sense if the chart was intended to be correct. I would be running this as 2 burst.

    OBLIVION SHORT SKILL / ARO
    Comms Attack, Non-Lethal.

    REQUIREMENTS
    ► The target must be an enemy with the Hackable Characteristic (HI, TAG, REM...) or an enemy Hacker.

    EFFECTS
    ► In the Active Turn, this Program’s Burst of 2 allows the user to perform two WIP Rolls, which can be distributed among one or more targets as usual.
    Each successful Roll, due to AP Ammunition, forces the target to make Saving Roll against their halved BTS, with Damage 16.
    Any failed Saving Roll will cause the target to enter Isolated State, placing an Isolated State Token (ISOLATED) by them.
    ► A Critical with Oblivion forces its target to perform an additional Saving Roll, applying their halved BTS value.
    ► The range of this Program is the Hacker’s Hacking Area
     
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  10. MikeTheScrivener

    MikeTheScrivener O-12 Peace Kepper

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    my guess is B1 to further differentiate it from carbonite.
     
  11. RobertShepherd

    RobertShepherd Antipodean midwit

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    My guess is B2 because hacking got awesome.
     
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    Ugin Well-Known Member
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    My guess is B2 because JEEZ LOUISE Mary is godlike.
     
  13. Sabin76

    Sabin76 Well-Known Member

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    Even with B2, I still wouldn't take the Skiavoros Hacker profile...
     
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  14. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    Maybe I split the difference and we simulate B1.5 by every alternating Oblivion between 1 and 2 burst every use.
     
  15. HellLois

    HellLois What the Hell...Lois?
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    oh yikes. I take note to fix that table.THX

    The Oblvion Burst is 2
     
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  16. tox

    tox SorriBarai
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    Don't forget to fix Army7!!!
     
  17. HellLois

    HellLois What the Hell...Lois?
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    its done, maybe it take a while due the cache ;)
     
  18. THEGRAAK

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    In my Army 7 (mobile) Oblivion is correct: burst 2.
    However,no matter what hacker device I choose I see every program available,they are not filtered. (I tried this bug with PanO vanilla and Hexa hackers)
     
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  19. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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  20. REND

    REND Well-Known Member

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    I am very unhappy about this.
     
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