Hi, I have a question about a case of ARO vs. stealth model. There is a Muttawiah with Jammer(No LoF weapon), and a Ninja(w/Stealth). A wall is blocking LoF between them, nobody can see opposite. Ninja is moving into Mutt's ZOC, using a short normal move skill. First question : Does stealth prevent Mutt from making Jammer-ARO? In detail: (from stealth) A trooper with Stealth that declares a Short Movement Skill or Cautious Movement within the Zone of Controlof one or more enemies but outside their LoF does not grant AROs to those enemies, even if he reaches base contact with them. I think this stealth bonus works only when he declares a short/long skill inside enemy ZOC, not when moving into an enemy ZOC. what do you think about this? Second question : (from ARO) A trooper owned by the Reactive Player can declare an ARO if any of the following is true: It has Line of Fire (LoF) to a trooper being activated by the Active Player. An enemy trooper activates within its Zone of Control (ZOC). It has a Special Skill or piece of Equipment allowing reaction to enemy actions without LoF. Does the second bulletpoint include moving into enemy ZOC? spending an order/declaring a skill inside ZOC is certain, but what about like this ninja's case? thanks in advance.
1st Q: activating, as well as declaring and executing a skill is synonymous with regard to granting an ARO and applies across a model's entire movement path during an order. The Ninja will not provoke an ARO unless they decline to use Stealth. 2nd Q: same answer as above.
It makes no difference if the Ninja starts in ZoC or not, Stealth prevents ZoC-based AROs. Note that you count as 'declaring' a Movement Skill everywhere along the movement path.
@Mahtamori @ijw Wow, thanks for the quick reply. My friends told me so, but I hadn't understood it completely. I'm from Warmachine miniature game firstover, maybe this experience was a roadblock to accepting new game rules. (thought declare / excute timing was different)
Ah, Warmahordes. Be ready for a rough ride. Infinity rules are not as consistent in terminology as Warmahordes, you have to use an actual dictionary sometimes and sometimes make judgements based on which interpretation is least outlandish. Keep an open mind and it'll be easier :)
From everything I've heard about people moving to Infinity from other games... You're best served by simply forgetting everything you learned in those other games. :smirk_cat:
