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Next Troop Speculations

Discussion in 'O-12' started by Space Ranger, Jul 22, 2019.

  1. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Thought I'd start this up and lets see who is closest in a week or so!

    Going by the AVA, location in the list and possibly the name, I think we can come up with some things.

    Alpha: AVA2, Light Infantry area of the list. Alpha can stand for being dominant, leader, number 1.

    I think it’s an HQ troop. What has been shown so far has very little choice for Lt. The Kappa is 1 SWC and the Gamma is going to be a huge market.

    Lynx: AVA2, Light Infantry area. Wild cat native to north America and Europe and Asia. Very shy and stealthy.
    Camo troop of some sort I think.

    Sirius: AVA2, Light Infantry.
    We’ve already seen the images and know it’s a G:Synch type troop. But not much else to go on for rules. The robe-beast has no visible big guns but could have Nanopulsars or some other type of template weapon.

    Omega: AVA3, Heavy Infantry as Carlos said in the Video. Omega is the last letter of Greek alphabet.
    I can’t really say much about this but I’m guessing it will be an ARM4 type HI. Could be 3. Not much to go on here.

    Beta: AVA 3, Heavy Infantry. Carlos has pretty much said it’s a Remote and the full name is Remote Activity Unit Beta. In the list it’s before Gama and after Omega and Carlos said the Omega is a HI. So some form of bi-pedal remote Heavy. Like Karakui? They are HI instead of Remotes. So not able to have hackers upgrade them.

    Zeta: AVA1, TAG. It’s already been said it’s a TAG but no clue as to what it’s capabilities are. No matter what, it will be better than the Guijia.

    Razor: AVA 2. This is a tough one. Could be a TAG or Skirmish which usually comes after TAGs. I’m thinking Skirmish because right now the only other Skirmish is the Gangbuster. But it would make sense for a hi-tech faction like O-12 to have more than one TAG. Carlos said they are more of a Hammer than a scalpel too.

    Varangian Guard: AVA4. It’s either in the Warband area or Mercenary area. Could be both. What we know of them is that they are mercenaries from Ariadna. I have know idea what this troop would be in this faction.

    Cyberghots Quanitronic Surveillance Unit: AVA 2, Remote?, Mercenary Hacker? The only thing I can think of is them being like an Imetron or Netrod with a bit more to it. Maybe Netrod with Sensor and Reaper.

    Lambda Specialized Support Unit: AVA 2. No clue
     
  2. colbrook

    colbrook Black Fryer

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    Lambda seem placed to be the Doc/Engi "support box" troopers.
     
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  3. MikeTheScrivener

    MikeTheScrivener O-12 Peace Kepper

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    I agree – possibly a popular LT option or CoC, similar to a kempetai type unit.

    Disagree – Name and AVA lead me to believe this might be a motorcycle troop

    Biometric visor and sensor on the robot. Theyre our camo hunters. this lines up with the fluff and the fact they play opposite a Cadmus, who uses decoy.

    Vanilla HI. probably nothing too special. possibly BS14, or 13. will be expensive.

    Like Karakuri but faster and less resilient is my guess. Maybe something like a spitfire would be their main weapon.

    big and expensive. best TAG the human sphere has to offer.

    Their unit symbol reminds me of a ninja star. Maybe a big CC guy? smaller TAG? who knows. this one puzzles me too.

    14-15 point warband. template weapon, CC capabilities and possibly eclipse.

    TO infiltrator focused on Hacking Devices – KHD, AHD, ect. expensive!

    one doctor profile, one engineer profile.
     
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  4. Ghost_from_warp

    Ghost_from_warp Classified
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    High stats mi or hq
    guess you right
    i guess it's Daoying kind of unit. It's not a rem, it's like rem, just like daoying
    bikes
    eng\doctor
     
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  5. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    It may actually be really heavy, Swiss Guard/Hac Tao/Father-Knight. ARM5BTS6+ but still S2. That's what I'm expecting, anyway.



    Major, high-end TAG. Too expensive for PanO to buy enough for their army. I'm expecting something on the order of Avatar or Marut. Big and terrifyingly scary.


    Probably SK, them being bikes is unlikely. I don't think O12 will have more than 1 TAG. YJ only has 1 TAG now, after all.


    Probably CC monsters, O12 seems to be primarily shooty.


    A Netrod with Sensor and Repeater would be interesting. The name certainly suggests something like that.


    Definitely Doc and Engineer.
     
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  6. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Ha! I feel it's more likely TAGs then just to shove to Yu jing again.

    And to add more insult The Omega will be what Shang Ji should have been and Betas will be the replacement they should have gotten for Karakuri.
     
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  7. Leviathan

    Leviathan Hungry Caliban

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    in Infinity, more advanced tends to mean miniaturization. So I'd not be surprised if it was a S6 chassis with the stats and loadout of a Squalo or Cutter.
     
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    3A5B1EF0-5676-4EB0-AEEB-010EFC0E96C3.jpeg Saw this on FB, the beyond wildfire unit profiles
     
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  9. MerloyJenkils

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    Ufff expensive all... the Beta trooper puzzles me a bit but i like the CP and HD on a remote that is not REM :)
     
  10. Ghost_from_warp

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    Omega op, gamma - you service is no more needed. Goldstein - reasonable, but i will invest in something like omega and additional orders and pick regular delta fo. Beta - rifle profile make little sense in current meta, if he will have heavy weapon profile and remain specialist - that will be nice.
     
  11. colbrook

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    Gamma is still the best bet against a linked MSV2, which are pretty prevalent nowadays. He still makes one heck of a roadblock too. The Omega is just asking to be picked apart on reactive.

    Not sure what meta is making multi rifles useless, are people playing on planet bowling ball now?
     
  12. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Omega OP? He’s already better than a Shang Ji as I thought they would be. ODD! BS14, ARM4, BTS3, for HMG, 2 SWC, 48pts. That’s a steal! Somehow YJ has the tech to make a guy TO Camo but can’t downgrade to ODD.

    The Beta is like the Holomen. Climb+ instead of Super Jump. Structure instead of wounds. 2 levels of unconscious. etc. But the Hyper Dynamics L1 means they dodge on 15 and Mimetisim! Again i’m Jealous for YJ. Something I would have liked as a replacement for Karakui.

    Cuervo looks like another Spector. Looks really good to me. Though what’s shown is not a specialist.
     
  13. Kreslack

    Kreslack See you Space Cowboy...

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    Hollow men have STR instead of W and Remote Presence as well.

    I really like the BetaTrooper as a solid all rounder, that wants to make a move midgame on the objectives from unexpected angles

    I really love the Omega. That fella is gonna be hard to shift outta suppression if he finds a good spot. And will be killer on the attack.
     
  14. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Look closer. Betas have those.

    Also, looks like I was pretty close on Omega and Beta. But I was also pretty generic. I think Betas are going to be fantastic.
     
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  15. Kreslack

    Kreslack See you Space Cowboy...

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    I misread your first post. I thought you were saying the Hollowmen had W.

    I'll be curious to see what else BetaTroopers have for options. Maybe a hacker with a repeater.
     
  16. Leviathan

    Leviathan Hungry Caliban

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    I've seen fluff of Beta units, and kinda get the impression that they'll have doctors and engineers rather than heavy weapons.
     
  17. Tourniquet

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    Multirifle and nano pulsars are fine on a specialist model that will most likely be engaging in tight CQB firefights near objectives, something like the spitfire or HMG is really not that great in those style of engagements. the BTS 3 on both of has me a concerned but it just means the value on the KHD gangbuster has gone up.
     
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    Was looking at these beyond profiles last night, cuervo Goldstein dropping on 16s with his faithful 15pt kappa hacker seems pretty great. Pseudo 2W heavy infantry drop troopers are exceptionally useful in my experience should be a classified scoring machine. Needs a multi rifle varient, but I'm sure we'll see that next week.
    That omega gets ODD on same relevant stats for 4 points more than the ORC, very nice piece.
    Betatroopers also look amazing, really rate C+ the 6 move and the weapon loadouts, sweeper is available in the omega, beta cleans up midfield laughing off mines and using intuitive attacks, mimetism to keep it alive... very nice, where's the tinbot?