I'm a newer Infinity player, and I started with the Red Veil and Beyond Red Veil boxes. I am currently looking to expand my Haqqislam and would like some expert advice. I have not played very many games yet, though i have added the Al'Hawwa and a box of Muttawiah to my forces. What should my next step be? I want to get a Mag at some point, and possibly the Dire Foes box for Leila Sharif. Should I get the box of remotes? Zhaeyaden? Khawarijs?
It depends(tm). Missions, most likely local opponents, cool sculpts, and the tables you play on are going to drive your decisions over random internet advice. Rather than units, identify capabilities you would like to have or experiment with. Then you can ask informed questions on missile launchers vs sniper rifle for long range shooting, ARO vs active turn value or care and feeding of fiday and when to not bring one.
Remotes are almost a must, since they are the cheapest regular orders available. As you gain experience, you'll likely never build a list without one or two 8 pts-remotes. As you already have a Ragik from Beyond Red Veil, I would also add a basic hacker, that can make your airdrops easier. The Hassassin Barid blister is the best buy for this, as he's Haqqislams best hacker, and a good lieutenant as well. The Haqqislam support pack is good as well - you need Nasmat remotes, Doctors and Engineers for many missions, and you'll want to capitalize on Haqqislams great Ghulam doctors. You'll also want a Multispectral Visor lvl 2 in almost every list, especially now that you have Muttawi'ahs (because MSV2's ability to shoot through smoke is very powerful). There is a Khawarij profile for this that you can try with your Khawarij model from Red Veil, but by far the best MSV2 in Haqqislam is the Mukhtar with Red Fury. It doesn't have a model yet though, so I would recommend proxying it with something else if you don't mind that sorta thing.
First of all, wait until N4 hits, because the new rules might change a lot. Secondly, proxy and play some games...find out what works for you and what doesnt. People can tell you all day long how good something is, but if you realize, that that doesnt work for you, you are in for dissapointment. Also with growing experience, your preferences might change.
Buy the remotes box, Hunzakut blister, and Naffatun box. Those would be my top 3 (after Ghazi which you already own). Do not buy the Zhayedan box. Currently they are one of the absolute worst things in the game. This could change in N4 , however. edit: re reading your post, are you planning on playing Ramah ? If so, you won't need the Hunzakut.
Great call about the Hunzakut blister. It is a very good piece and can be very helpful in Vanilla. Plus it has so much character. The Khawarij box is beautiful and all the models are useful in some way, just rarely all at the same time. The Hassassin Box has Daylamis and a Farzan, but I would put it as nice to have.
naffatun are not essential as they do the same job as ghulam (Lt, Lt decoy, cheerleader, DZ guard), only with grenades and flamethrowers. But that flame thrower can be so useful if a pesky camo trooper is on an objective and last turn you torch them like Ripley. Get away from that objective marker you bitch!
Naffatun are fantastic corner guards. Most rambos can outshoot a Ghulam's shotgun, but nobody can outshoot a flamethrower. I have one or two in most of my lists.
Agreed, when people finally get troopers to your back lines, it really makes them consider their options when youve got +3 shooting to 16, a dtw, or a +3 blast within 8. Not to mention bts3 comes in handy against nanopulsers, and phys 11 dodge is better than 10. All for the same points as a ghulam. I always take naffatuns as cheerleaders over ghulam.
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My son has almost same situation. We have Haqqislam from Redveil and Beyond Redveil. My son has also Hunzakuts blister and Murabid Tuareg Hacker. What we are struggling a lot is Haqqislam models survivability, as having low ARM and one wound profiles. My Yu Jing models many times are much tougher. Probably we should use more Haqqislam Tricks but we're learning ourselves alone (with no more experienced Haqqislam players around), as COVID lockdown is here.
Go a little nuts with the doctors. They're specialists anyway, don't have a crazy-higher cost, and can generally get unconscious models back up on 17s (WIP 14 and Doctor[+3]). I play Ramah, and in my last game I had Tarik Mansuri running ragged over the enemy. He kept getting knocked down, but because of all his skills, wouldn't quite die. So I paired him with the Mukhtar Doctor (himself a REALLY effective model) and every time my opponent would knock Tarik down, the M. Doctor would bring him right back again. Really frustrated with my opponent and helped psych him out.
Do proxy your models so that you can explore the way the faction design works. Gone are the days when Haqq was the light infantry faction. In N4, everyone brings some armored units, including Haqq. But you won't necessarily see those units in the starter boxes. You could buy a bunch more models, but you're better off proxying with what you have so that you can decide what you want to eventually buy. Your son should try running an Asawira AP spitfire. It's an incredibly survivable unit, much more so than almost all Yu Jing's HI. The AP spitfire is also an excellent anti-armor gun. (Just remember that once the Asawira has wounded someone, he becomes Impetuous due to his Frenzy skill, and much less survivable). The Fiday has no armor, but has a different kind of survivability due to his Impersonation state. Your son can proxy him as Al Djabel, who is good at taking out HI in close combat. Fidays are also good for getting into your backline and murdering all your cheerleaders. Your HI will be a lot less scary once you don't have any orders to spend on them. Your son might also like the Muttawiah with e/marat. She's not survivable at all, but for 8 points you don't care. And one hit from that e/marat can stop anything Yu Jing can put on the table. A Daylami panzerfaust can wreck a HI if they catch it outside its weapon's good range. One thing Haqq is not stellar at is defensive hacking. Your son may find that the Tuareg hacker isn't doing enough to slow you down to justify his point cost. He could try proxying him as a Hawwa hacker - cheaper, but does pretty much the same thing in terms of slowing HI. Tabletop Simulator is great if you're looking for more opponents during the lockdown!
Also! Note that this thread up until now was an N3 thread. Things have changed significantly in N4, so take the advice in this thread with a few grains of salt. For example, you see a lot of folks suggesting Naffatuns, which were great units in N3. But you'll find some more recent threads in the forum about how they're a lot less desirable in N4 as compared to Ghulams.
Yes, I am. I have as an addition limited Crane. As I stated before: we are still in learning phase, so probably using pure strength in Yu Jing is much simple for me, than using special skills and abilities on Haqqislam for my son. Of course I'm trying to help him, it's not competitive playing, but having fun. I was suggesting even changing sides/armies (to test how it is on the other side) but my son is declared Haqqislam fun and he don't want to hear about that :)
