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New Montesa Experiences

Discussion in 'PanOceania' started by MrNailbrain, Oct 19, 2018.

  1. MrNailbrain

    MrNailbrain Relentless Optimist

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    I figured I’d separate this thread from all the others to discuss practical experience with the new Montesa bikers, because that discussion is spread out over at least 3 threads now. Anyone who wants to can go ahead and drop their thoughts in here.

    I got a game in last night with New!Acon against Starco, and I fielded the Paramedic Montesa as a striker piece in a small second combat group.

    [​IMG] Acon Test──────────────────────────────────────────────────GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10 [​IMG] BAGH-MARI HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 26)[​IMG] REGULAR (Sapper) MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 22)[​IMG] REGULAR (Minelayer, Sensor) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 14)[​IMG] REGULAR Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)[​IMG] REGULAR Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)[​IMG] GUARDA DE ASSALTO Spitfire + Heavy Flamethrower, D-Charges + AUXBOT_2 / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 51) [​IMG] [​IMG] AUXBOT_2 Light Shotgun + Eclipse Light Grenade Launcher / Electric Pulse. (- | 6)[​IMG] PATHFINDER DRONBOT Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16)[​IMG] FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)[​IMG] FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)[​IMG] NAGA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4 [​IMG]1 [​IMG]1[​IMG] KNIGHT OF MONTESA Paramedic (MediKit) Boarding Shotgun, Chain-colt / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 39)[​IMG] FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)[​IMG] NAGA (Minelayer) Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27)[​IMG] AKAL COMMANDO Combi Rifle + E/Mitter / Pistol, E/M CCW. (0 | 24)[​IMG] TECH-BEE (Remote Assistant Level 1, Specialist Operative) Flash Pulse / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5) 6 SWC | 300 PointsOpen in Infinity Army

    My opponent was playing Starco with the Emily Alguacile link, a couple Bandits, and a Spitfire Anaconda duo’d with a Tinbot Brigada.

    Mission was ITSX Acqusition. I won the LT roll and chose Deployment.

    I deployed my Montesa as my reserve piece, very far away from Emily (dodging that E/M LGL doesn’t sound fun for me!). In my first turn I opted to cancel Impetuous and instead bring down the Akal. He had his Anaconda’s back turned to my landing zone and i would have gotten a free E/Mitter shot in, but I whiffed the PHY roll and he scattered off the board, walked in on my board edge and proceeded to crit E/Mitter the Anaconda from the front anyways *shrug*

    My second turn I had an opening in my first group so I moved the Montesa over and let him ride with the Impetuous order. He raced up the board uncontested to an outside Antenna, successfully pushed the button, then drove to the middle of the board where he gunned down the Clockmaker and splashed onto an Alguacile. After taking a wound from a random combi hit, I opted to retreat him to the center Tech-coffin and hold that area with my Naga Minelayer.

    In my opponent’s final turn he dropped a Hellcat DepRep into B2B with the objective and opted to suppression fire instead of gunning down my Montesa. So in my final turn the Montesa used his Impetuous order to drive into CC with the Hellcat and chop him to bits, then controlled the objective for a healthy 3 points.

    Overall thoughts:
    Talk about a model that can do it all! Fast, durable, gunfighter, specialist, CC threat, the Montesa is something new in our arsenal. I feel like the points cost is fair what you get, especially for the BSG profiles. I’m really not sure about the Multi Rifle profile, but I’m going to try that one next and see how it does as a warband deterrent.

    Due to the order efficiency of the Impetuous order and his high MOV, I feel like the Montesa is a good second group headliner that can get lots of work done with maybe only 4-5 orders. My next task is going to be trying to squeeze both a Tik and a Montesa into the list, because I feel they will complement each other really well.
     
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  2. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Illegal, you cannot AD jump in B2B with anything (especially objectives).
     
  3. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    On the topic of Montesa: I've just realized that he can use 8" as a Cautions Movement (fun with stealth).

    Also MA2 is actually important when charging guys with a templates, as unopoosed CC22 DA DAM17 hit should remove most of the opposition.
     
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  4. MrNailbrain

    MrNailbrain Relentless Optimist

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    Noted for the future.

    I’m just happy I got to use his CC in my first game with him, when CC happens it’s always a big event that draws spectators because it’s almost always super lethal.
     
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    Zsolt Well-Known Member

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  6. Death

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    http://infinitythewiki.com/en/Cautious_Movement

    "IMPORTANT!
    TAG, Remotes, Motorcycles and Vehicles can never declare Cautious Movement."

    @Zsolt you dirty ninja. :P
     
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  7. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    It's in a big red box in the Motorcycle rule... :joy:
     
  9. tox

    tox SorriBarai
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    mmm.... Nope?
    upload_2018-10-19_14-23-36.png

    Edit for less aggressiveness: it would be good to found it there!
     
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  10. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    That's the problem, it's not.

    I've read it and was "well I thought they cannot cautious mov while on bike, apparently I was wrong".

    Not apparently I was double wrong xD
     
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    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    Zsolt Well-Known Member

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    Can you also add more links to the list of fireteams? It's really hard to find, or get linked to, usually have to google it. Pretty please?
     
  13. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Navigation pane on the left would be probably great place! @ijw
     
  14. ijw

    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    Cautious Movement and Dodge penalty 'see also' links added to the Motorcycle and troop types pages.
     
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  15. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    This might be relevant:
    (not mine, found in the groups)

    check @MrNailbrain post below!
     
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  16. MrNailbrain

    MrNailbrain Relentless Optimist

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    I just posted that to Facebook! Like I was about to post it here.

    @eciu you are a goddamn ninja.

    Here’s the photo again:

    [​IMG]

    Edit: it’s an old Hospitaller sculpt chopped up, and Bootleg Penthesilea’s bike.
     
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  17. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Dammit! Sorry! I'm gonna remove it, so you can post it and get all those internet points :)

    On a way it's hilarious that repost was faster than author xD
     
  18. MrNailbrain

    MrNailbrain Relentless Optimist

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    If the OC is a repost because it was posted after the repost, does the repost become the OC?
     
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    Judge Dredd Well-Known Member
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    Oception
     
  20. Zsolt

    Zsolt Well-Known Member

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    Why you no remove the moldlines?

    Also remove the old paint, then base again.
     
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