I never said pitcher strats weren’t reliable lol, just that they can fail. I still can’t help but notice you ignore certain points. How is someone getting free pitcher shots downfield against WBA? Where is your Long Ya or Hundun? Or are we playing sacrifice Gromez? How is taking out the Danavas not relevant but you getting a perfect situation to always take out my fireteam a perfect situation? Outside of B3 Oblivions it is not as easy to take out the SJ and can be quite order intensive. WhiteCo has better offensive hacking, but you have yet to even counter the claim I made of WBA having better defensive hacking. You decided to attack it and me instead of simply proving WhiteCo has a better defensive hacking game. It is almost like some fusiliers and Gromez with a -3 don’t compare.. Again you love hyperbole, this whole conversation started simply because I said WhiteCo is not just a better WBA. You keep exaggerating my claims unfairly which isn’t cool either. WBA has a large amount of AP. It is a fact, can’t help but notice you don’t argue that, is it because of the maths? The game has changed and even MRs and breaker combis are effective against TAGs. WBA has one of the best defensive hacking fireteams in the game, can you defuse it? Yes, but does anyone else have access to a -6 tinbot in a fireteam with a bunch of hackers? Again find me a better defensive hacking fireteam or notice that WBA is packing some sort of AP in 2/3rds of its profiles. Edited to be less personal, even if Triumph is being dismissive of me, I have no right to nit-pick and be dismissive of him. I generally value your insight Triumph for a lot of gameplay mechanics and strats, I just think at times you tend to repeat some of the same annoyances in the game in every thread.