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Discussion in 'PanOceania' started by GabrielMcMoon, Dec 8, 2018.

  1. GabrielMcMoon

    GabrielMcMoon New Member

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    good evening at all,
    its my first post on this forum, i play nca from 2 years

    what do you think about this list?
    in the first group i could generate 7 order to move the swiss guard, i play the deva liutenant to have the best wip for the first turn, in the second group i can move the hexa to advance in the objective line or move all the specialist troop together

    every good comment are welcome
    thank you

    Neoterran Capitaline Army
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]8
    SWISS GUARD HMG / Pistol, AP CCW. (2 | 68)
    FUSILIER MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 18)
    FUSILIER MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 18)
    FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    BLACK FRIAR (Albedo, Biometric Visor L1) MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser, Drop Bears / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 28)
    SIERRA DRONBOT HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]7
    DEVA Lieutenant (Sensor) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24)
    HEXA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 27)
    MACHINIST Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    AUXILIA (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle + AUXBOT_1 / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    [​IMG] AUXBOT_1 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4)
    CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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  2. ThananRollice

    ThananRollice Your Friendly Neighborhood Locust

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    Looks solid to me. Why not use Fusilier Missile Launchers, if I might ask? They are cheaper, and if they are primarily being used as ARO pieces, an explosive shell is going to hurt a whole lot more than a sniper shot. With the extra points, you could grab a Tech Bee.
     
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  3. GabrielMcMoon

    GabrielMcMoon New Member

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    This is the modified list
    Thank you

    Neoterran Capitaline Army
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]8
    SWISS GUARD HMG / Pistol, AP CCW. (2 | 68)
    FUSILIER Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 15)
    FUSILIER Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 15)
    FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    BLACK FRIAR (Albedo, Biometric Visor L1) MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser, Drop Bears / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 28)
    SIERRA DRONBOT HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]7 [​IMG]1
    DEVA Lieutenant (Sensor) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24)
    HEXA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 27)
    MACHINIST (NCA) (Bioimmunity, Veteran L1) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    AUXILIA (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle + AUXBOT_1 / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    [​IMG] AUXBOT_1 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4)
    CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    TECH-BEE (Remote Assistant Level 1, Specialist Operative) Flash Pulse / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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    #3 GabrielMcMoon, Dec 8, 2018
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  4. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Dont put your Swiss HMG in same group as your primary ARO pieces. In case you lose your ARO (as you will) it will affect order pool of Swiss, limiting what he can do once he gets an active turn.
     
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  5. GabrielMcMoon

    GabrielMcMoon New Member

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    ok
    another change?
    cause in this way i've 7 order of my aro pieces that remain unused
     
  6. derbrizon

    derbrizon Well-Known Member

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    You could move Swiss and BF to group 2.

    Either way doesn't matter a whole lot. Command tokens exist.
     
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  7. GabrielMcMoon

    GabrielMcMoon New Member

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    Ok. I've thinked the same. I can transfer them with command tokens. Thank you!
     
  8. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    I think that Swiss should have a full 10 orders.

    Actually auxilis or CSU can do nice help even when they do have 5 orders to use (usually enough to flame someone ).
     
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  9. Sepheriel

    Sepheriel PanO Enthusiast

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    Noob question: what's your plan B after the Swiss goes down? It might be just lack of experience on my part but I don't see a secondary attack piece worth the name.
     
  10. GabrielMcMoon

    GabrielMcMoon New Member

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    No. It's a good question. But i thinked that if i have black friar, hexa and deva, i could use them for a second attack or to hold back the position taken. A second piece is too expensive and my order pool with him become very poor.

    This is the modified list:
    Other question or comments are welcome.

    Neoterran Capitaline Army
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    DEVA Lieutenant (Sensor) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24)
    HEXA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 27)
    MACHINIST (NCA) (Bioimmunity, Veteran L1) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    SWISS GUARD HMG / Pistol, AP CCW. (2 | 68)
    CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    AUXILIA (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle + AUXBOT_1 / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    [​IMG] AUXBOT_1 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4)
    SIERRA DRONBOT HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25)
    FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    BLACK FRIAR (Albedo, Biometric Visor L1) MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser, Drop Bears / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 28)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]5 [​IMG]1
    FUSILIER Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 15)
    FUSILIER Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 15)
    FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    TECH-BEE (Remote Assistant Level 1, Specialist Operative) Flash Pulse / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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  11. AdmiralJCJF

    AdmiralJCJF Heart of the Hyperpower
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    That Tech Bee in Group 2 has a LOT of orders to run around achieving objectives!
     
  12. xammy

    xammy Keeper of Random Facts and Strong Opinions

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    OR... get shot off the table... should have invested in better clothing.
     
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  13. Commoner1

    Commoner1 Well-Known Member

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    Group 2 is completely pointless this way to be honest. :-(

    And I strongly disagree with the advice that ARO units and attack units should not share the same combat groups. Just don't throw away your ARO units mindlessly and you'll be fine. Move the Fusiliers up and the Machinist, the 2 CSUs, the Hexa and the Sierra down.

    It is far more important to distribute your jump troops and hidden deployment units evenly, so no order pool starts starved if you go first.
     
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  14. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    A 7-7 split in your order pools is rarely ever good. It will leave one pool with 5 orders (either because your opponent used a Command Token to take two orders away or because you lost a couple models). I really don't recommend starting a group with less than 8 orders, and having 9-10 orders in the main group will always be better.

    I also agree with @Commoner1 that you should have some models you aren't planning on activating in your primary combat group, to allow you to spend their orders on other models.
     
  15. AdmiralJCJF

    AdmiralJCJF Heart of the Hyperpower
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    It's more that you should always try to make sure that you have a use for the orders in your second group.

    So including one viable attack piece and one viable specialist in that group is always good.

    I'd argue that's more important than maintaining the 10 orders for your Swiss rampage in the case of this list.
     
  16. Commoner1

    Commoner1 Well-Known Member

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    I never said that you should ever split your groups evenly. :-)

    And to reiterate my advice here is the list I mentioned:

    Neoterran Capitaline Army
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    MACHINIST (NCA) (Bioimmunity, Veteran L1) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    DEVA Lieutenant (Sensor) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24)
    SWISS GUARD HMG / Pistol, AP CCW. (2 | 68)
    AUXILIA (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle + AUXBOT_1 / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    [​IMG] AUXBOT_1 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4)
    FUSILIER Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 15)
    FUSILIER Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 15)
    FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    BLACK FRIAR (Albedo, Biometric Visor L1) MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser, Drop Bears / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 28)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]5 [​IMG]1
    SIERRA DRONBOT HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25)
    FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    HEXA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 27)
    TECH-BEE (Remote Assistant Level 1, Specialist Operative) Flash Pulse / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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    10 full orders for the Swiss Guard. Both groups can contribute in a meaningful way and the ARO and TO units are split up between the groups.
     
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  17. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    Ah, yeah, I've never really run too many multiple-combat-group lists.
     
  18. GabrielMcMoon

    GabrielMcMoon New Member

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    I'll try it friday.
    Thank you guys!
     
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  19. GabrielMcMoon

    GabrielMcMoon New Member

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    good evening at all

    I 've played a match in friday and unfortunately i've lost
    it was a good match
    but i was wrong with my swiss guard, i could dominate all the enemy line but like a noob i've blocked the swiss and I withdrew

    BUT

    i've unterstand many important things
    1- the swiss guard is the the true strongest piece of neoterra, a little tag with TO camo with a great desire to purify XD
    the idea to take two in a list it's no bad (hmg + assault hacking for example)
    2- a liutenant like a deva have a very good wip but is very vulnerable and for the adversary is easy to think that it is the LT
    3- a fusilier's link team is strong in the aro reaction turns, but if it is the only job of the team, they become usuless or to use only in few situation
    take them with a missile launcher and a hmg and a specialist in the team it's not bad idea
    4- hexa is a very good piece, the strenght of it: is the cheaper to camo in all panoceania
    5- i need a plan b; in a strong list you have to be ready to change the plan when the situation break down, a locust or another swiss, or in general another strong piece is necessary
    6- never give up
     
  20. GabrielMcMoon

    GabrielMcMoon New Member

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    This is the modified list

    Neoterran Capitaline Army
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    SWISS GUARD HMG / Pistol, AP CCW. (2 | 68)
    LOCUST Boarding Shotgun, Grenades, Drop Bears / Pistol, Shock CCW, Knife. (0 | 30)
    FUSILIER HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 18)
    FUSILIER Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 15)
    FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    FUSILIER Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    FUSILIER Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    BLACK FRIAR MULTI Sniper, Nanopulser / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 30)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]5
    HEXA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 27)
    MACHINIST (NCA) (Bioimmunity, Veteran L1) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    BULLETEER Heavy Shotgun / Electric Pulse. (0 | 17)
    MULEBOT (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    AUXILIA (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle + AUXBOT_1 / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    [​IMG] AUXBOT_1 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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