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NCO is not needed

Discussion in 'O-12' started by D_acolyte, Oct 14, 2020.

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  1. D_acolyte

    D_acolyte Well-Known Member

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    So this may be an unpopular opinion and it is also only about in O-12 but we do not need NCO. I feel faction that need this rule are those that do not have a lot of Strategos models or cheep chain of command such as Nomads.
    How I see the 3 purpose of NCO:
    1. to give armies with expensive strategos (those over 50)
    2. it is to give factions that suffer from loosing there LT a rambo model that can use the LT order.
    3. it is to allow fire teams to allow the LT order and in doing so making heavy infantry cores and haris more useful

    Strategos
    In vanilla we have 3 options for Strategos L 1: Alpha, Saladin and Hector
    I am not going to say you should always run one of them but it is hard not to justify at least an Alpha gives you 2 orders, a 5th command token and an extra reserve model. So it is effectively 2 Kappa in cost and slightly more then 2 bodies in army efficiency.
    Saladin is more resilient then the Alpha but less killy then Hector forming a nice in-between if you want that as well as being a repeater, can we say white noise.
    Hector gets you 3 orders for being on the board and he can kill decently well.

    Chain of Command (CoC)
    Alpha, gives up Strategos L 1 for CoC.
    Ensign Cho has CoC and Halomask so you can hide her as a doctor, engineer or a prone model you do not want to have fight. I once had her look like a Epsilon SMR and my enemy lost a smoke thrower to her shooting and him failing to dodge in my active turn as he thought smoke would not save him. For a CoC model Cho is cheep.

    NCO
    Raptor and Zeta: this is not about if these guys are fun, because they are.
    The first reason for NCO is countered as is if you take an Alpha or Saladin then there LT order can be used on them already so NCO is not needed.
    Cho is cheep, may be the cheapest CoC in the game and with being able to hide you can hopefully make it so she does not die.
    Finally neither can be in fire teams so the 3rd reason does not come into play.

    Fringe cases Gamma Aggressive Strike
    If you wanted to do a massive armor list which focus on brutal beat face ness you may want to take NCO and just ram at your enemy and then your killer LT walks out near the end of the game to play clean up.

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    Please do not judge the list to hard it was a quick one I put together to make use of NCO
     
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  2. MikeWy

    MikeWy Well-Known Member

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    I use Cho/Omega and raptors together. I like having the extra NCO order as i rarely bring my lietenant into the fight unless I have cho as coc.
     
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    D_acolyte Well-Known Member

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    So are you saying that you do not use an Alpha or Saladin? If so who do you use and why?
     
  4. MikeWy

    MikeWy Well-Known Member

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    I usually use cho, but ppl may start wiseing up to that, I use cho simply because she is cheap allowing me to bring more guns/models to the table. Using holomask I disguise her as any target I think my opponent will not want to attack - for now that is usually the omega or a beta trooper and usually inside a building.

    sometimes Instead of cho I use an omega but for no particular reason other than I fancy a change, plus it keeps my circle on their feet is it cho this time or the real omega.

    I’m pretty new to infinity though, this is just what I am finding useful for now. In summary though I bring her for her hollow mask whether I bring her as coc or lietenant. As coc I am less afraid to use my actual lieutenant in battle.
     
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    D_acolyte Well-Known Member

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    Thanks.
    I normally bring an Alpha or now Saladin because have the extra order for any one is a lot of power. I have also done the 2 Saladin (one is Cho and one is the real one). Hector can be a monster, he was my standard LT in Steel Phalanx.
     
  6. Solar

    Solar Well-Known Member

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    Cho is our best LT, arguably

    NCO is great, it lets Cho generate two orders and at 15pts that's a steal
     
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  7. Leviathan

    Leviathan Hungry Caliban

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    I mean, yes, i get it, but i'm also reluctant to leave important and somewhat defenseless solo models hiding in my backline when almost all my stuff is pushing forwards into the midfield - id much rather the security of hiding my LT in a fireteam.
     
  8. Kreslack

    Kreslack Unknown Ranger lead the way!

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    It's not 'needed' but i rather like having the option.
     
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  9. Phayton

    Phayton Well-Known Member

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    NCO shines more in Starmada where you might field a Kappa or Bluecoat Lt. in your core link.
     
  10. tox

    tox SorriBarai
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    I like my Zeta NCO...
    I only dislike that NCO skill is not Private Information
     
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