So I think Ill be playing a tournament as NCA for the first time, usually I run Ariadna camo spam but I really want to try something new. The missions will be: 1- Biotechvore 2- Show of Force 3- Looting and Sabotaging So how are you guys aproaching the Show of Force mission ? Are you using tags? Im really unsure about a Squald HGL to this mission. The tournament are 2 lists, lists that Im still trying. LIST A Neoterran Capitaline Army ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 10 INDIGO Spec-Ops (12 XP) (CH: Mimetism) Combi Rifle, HMG / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) FUSILIER Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 15) FUSILIER Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) FUSILIER (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) LOCUST Breaker Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Shock CCW, Knife. (0 | 32) BULLETEER Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1 | 23) HEXA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 27) SWISS GUARD HMG / Pistol, AP CCW. (2 | 68) FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) GROUP 2 4 SIERRA DRONBOT HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25) MULEBOT Hacker (EVO Hacking Device) Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 25) FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) HEXA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 27) 6 SWC | 300 Points LIST B GROUP 1 10 CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) CSU Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11) FUSILIER Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 15) INDIGO Spec-Ops (12 XP) (CH: Mimetism) Combi Rifle, HMG / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) FUSILIER Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) LOCUST Boarding Shotgun, Grenades, Drop Bears / Pistol, Shock CCW, Knife. (0 | 30) HEXA Spitfire / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 30) SWISS GUARD HMG / Pistol, AP CCW. (2 | 68) GROUP 2 6 BULLETEER Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1 | 23) HEXA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 27) FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) AUXILIA Combi Rifle + AUXBOT_1 / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14) AUXBOT_1 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4) AUXILIA Combi Rifle + AUXBOT_1 / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14) AUXBOT_1 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4) 6 SWC | 300 Points LIST C GROUP 1 10 INDIGO Spec-Ops (12 XP) (CH: Mimetism) Combi Rifle, HMG / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) FUSILIER Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 15) FUSILIER Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) FUSILIER (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) BULLETEER Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1 | 23) HEXA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 27) SWISS GUARD HMG / Pistol, AP CCW. (2 | 68) FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) GROUP 2 5 / 1 SIERRA DRONBOT HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25) MULEBOT Hacker (EVO Hacking Device) Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 25) LOCUST Breaker Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Shock CCW, Knife. (0 | 32) CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) WARCOR (Sixth Sense L1) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3) 6 SWC | 300 Points LIST D - TAG LIST, may to play the SHOW OF FORCE MISSION Neoterran Capitaline Army ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 10 SQUALO (Armored Cav.) MULTI HMG, Heavy Grenade Launcher / AP Heavy Pistol. (2.5 | 95) CRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. () FUSILIER Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 15) INDIGO Spec-Ops (12 XP) (CH: Mimetism) Combi Rifle, HMG / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) FUSILIER Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) LOCUST Boarding Shotgun, Grenades, Drop Bears / Pistol, Shock CCW, Knife. (0 | 30) HEXA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 27) FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) GROUP 2 5 BULLETEER Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1 | 23) SIERRA DRONBOT HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25) FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) MULEBOT (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) 6 SWC | 299 Points
Show of Force does really reward TAG use for NCA (we're better at using them than killing them). But, personally, I think the Camo of the Uhlan is just too useful in terms of surviveability to ignore for that one. I love list A, except for the basic Locust. I'd run the Boarding Shotgun over that profile. List B, likewise, except the Hexa Spitfire would be better as a Deva MSV+Spitfire. List D is pretty solid for TAG support, I'd just swap in the Uhlan and maybe ditch the Mulebot to make the space (you'll have the points at the end to add a Tech Bee).
I was thinking about the Squalo HGL because my meta is full of prone models, and usually one or two models exposed for aro duties. So maybe I can use the first turn to spam the HGL, I dont know I never ran tags before. I really like the boarding shotgun profile but I opted for the Dcharges option because Im worried about how to destroy the AC2 at Looting and Sabotaging mission. I dont know if it will be necessary , maybe I just need to use the Panoplies (with a specialist) to get a Dcharges. Good point. Ill play tomorrow, if possible Ill give the Uhlan a try! thanks a lot for all your support!
Ok, here's what a Squalo HGL list I run looks like. 10 Orders with solid defensive utility in Group 1, and a Group 2 with enough orders to get a Pathfinder across the table to SatLock if necessary. Neoterran Capitaline Army ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 10 SQUALO (Armored Cav.) MULTI HMG, Heavy Grenade Launcher / AP Heavy Pistol. (2.5 | 95) CRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. () FUSILIER Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) FUSILIER Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 18) FUSILIER (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) FUSILIER Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 15) AUXILIA (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle + AUXBOT_1 / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15) AUXBOT_1 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4) AUXILIA (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle + AUXBOT_1 / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15) AUXBOT_1 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4) CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) GROUP 2 6 PATHFINDER DRONBOT Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16) FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) HEXA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 27) MACHINIST Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15) PALBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) 4.5 SWC | 299 Points Open in Infinity Army
I changed your list (sorry :( ) to add the Spec Ops (Tournament rules.) and to spend all the Swc points, I know that sometimes its better to have more orders than special weapons....but i cant! lol Its stronger than me! :D But to be honest I think Ill need to practice a lot more with Pano :( I was a dominant player at my little clube while running ariadna but Im strugling with the pano :( List A = Show the Force Mission Show the Force ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 10 SQUALO (Armored Cav.) MULTI HMG, Heavy Grenade Launcher / AP Heavy Pistol. (2.5 | 95) CRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. () FUSILIER Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) INDIGO Spec-Ops (12 XP) (BS:13, Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, HMG / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) FUSILIER Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 15) CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) MULEBOT (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) GROUP 2 6 1 BULLETEER Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1 | 23) SIERRA DRONBOT HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25) PATHFINDER DRONBOT Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16) FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) HEXA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 27) WARCOR (Sixth Sense L1) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3) 6 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army List B = Biotechvore and Looting and Sabotaging Neoterran Capitaline Army ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 10 CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) INDIGO Spec-Ops (12 XP) (CH: Mimetism) Combi Rifle, HMG / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) FUSILIER Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 15) FUSILIER Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) FUSILIER Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 18) FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) LOCUST Boarding Shotgun, Grenades, Drop Bears / Pistol, Shock CCW, Knife. (0 | 30) DEVA (Multispectral Visor L2) Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 33) SWISS GUARD HMG / Pistol, AP CCW. (2 | 68) GROUP 2 6 BULLETEER Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1 | 23) HEXA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 27) FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) MULEBOT (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) 6 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army
Is there a reason you aren't taking a Machinist? You have a lot of things to be repaired, especially the TAG.
Well usually my experiencie with doctors/engineers is = spend 2 or 3 orders to reach the "injured" model and 1 order to finish his miserable agony killing it! :D But thanks for all your tips, Im playing with PanO because I really like the models but to be honest It feels like a handcap. Maybe its my meta or my play style but I have a easier time when playing with my ariadna :D Anyway I played yesterday against the new Druze sectorial, Biotechvore with list B from previous post. I won 6x0 , the locust alone kill the full Druze fireteam with his shotgun (after he fail the indirect fire 3 times trying to throw the drop bear! )
TAGs need Engineers. Not just for damage, but also for EM hits or ADHL hits. If you are going to fun TAGs then you need to run Engineers. That's my take on it. ... Oh, and playing PanOceania requires a totally different mindset and approach to the game from many other forces (especially Ariadna).
I hate to say this, but I'm of the opinion that L&S requires its own custom built list for NCA. It's a difficult enough mission for us that I actually tend to pick another faction if I see Looting & Sabotage in the lineup for a given tournament. Our TAGs are not super-high PH,l and punching that objective to death requires a massive amount of Orders. I'd given earnest consideration to two d-charge toting Locusts for that mission, and then protecting them with your life until you can clear a path to the enemy objective. But the other two are fine for NCA.
