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NCA beginners list attempt: comments required.

Discussion in 'PanOceania' started by Lameth, Jan 27, 2019.

  1. Lameth

    Lameth New Member

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    Hi every panoceanians.
    I am a very beginner at infinity with solely one game played.
    I read a lot here and there, shaping my knowledge to play panoceania and infinity.
    I have tried to build one list that i wanted to play and will play but i want to have some return from the panocenian community players from here.
    Enough talking. Here is the list, firstly intended for capture and protect scenario, i hope it can do well in other scenario.
    Any comments are welcome.

    [​IMG]NCA
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    [​IMG]SWISS GUARD HMG / Pistol, AP CCW. (2 | 68)
    [​IMG]SWISS GUARD Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) MULTI Rifle / Pistol, AP CCW. (0.5 | 70)
    [​IMG]ORC Feuerbach / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 42)
    [​IMG]ORC Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 35)
    [​IMG]FUSILIER Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG]FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG]FUSILIER Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG]FUSILIER Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 18)
    [​IMG]FUSILIER HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 18)
    [​IMG]BULLETEER Heavy Shotgun / Electric Pulse. (0 | 17)
    6 SWC | 300 Points
     
  2. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Its not *bad* list :) Its not playing to a full NCA potential, but I would say its good enough to go and play it and find what it is missing :)

    I would only advise you to get somd ARO piece. Linked Fusilier ML/MSR or Swiss Missle Launcher should be good :)

    And most important question, what's the mission ?

    Oh and @Lameth hello to the Superpower :)
     
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  3. barakiel

    barakiel Echo Bravo Master Sergeant

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    Starting with one combat group is good to start with, but NCA is (in my mind) really well defined by it's ability to use a lot of great low and mid-cost units as well as one or two huge hitters.

    Here, I'd consider dropping the orcs for an aquila. MSV3 is nice to have when you have few orders.
     
  4. Káosz Brigodéros

    Káosz Brigodéros Vanguard, Inc.

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    It is Capture and Protect as stated in the OP.
    To win this scenario you will need two things: capture the enemy Beacon (preferably with your datatracker) and defend your own Beacon (and especially prevent your enemy's data tracker getting your Beacon). This is a good old fashioned shoot-out PanO excels at.
    Notice that your best troopers (the Swiss Guard) cannot be your Datatracker (granting you additional 2 VPs), that can be an issue in this scenario.
    I believe doubling on the awesomeness we keep calling Swiss Guard is a good idea to accomplish this mission (Hey, just rush upfields and kill everyone coming in your way!) I think you could use (even more) hacking support in the form of a KHD. All your heavy hitters are hackable, and Killer Hacking Device is very useful against enemy hackers. Hexa is not very expensive (27 points) and Redrum will kill enemy hackers very effectively and can pop out of Hidden Deployment at the end of the game (entering the game in the last turn of yours or declaring dodge in the last turn of your opponent) to prevent your opponent from controlling your own Beacon. (Notice, that you cannot deploy him right next to the Beacon, but Dodge grants you a movement of 2"!)
    Now you will want Repeaters scattered across the table to actually use your hackers. Fugazi Dronbots (3) and Mulebots (2) are very cheap (costing 8 points) providing you a lot of orders to get upfields and do all the kiling and at the same time allow you to hack the heck out of your opponent! Your hackers don't have to be close (within 8") of the enemy, it is enough the enemy to be close (within 8") to the Repeater to be a legal target for hacking attacks. Tip: if you take 4 REMs with Repeaters, you can use a coordinated order to move all 4 upfields granting a protective screen for your Swiss Guards. Flash Pulse may not look intimidating, but a blinding attack from as far as 24" is more than annoying (especially when it has Burst of 2 thanks to Enhanced Reaction).
    I would drop the ORCs and squeeze in more troopers! Unless you go for a tournament with Limited Insertion, I would definitely include a secound group consisting of 4-5 troopers. If you insist on taking ORCs (I play them and I love them!) taking a Haris would help because the additional Burst and the ability to move three troopers using but one order helps a lot!
    Important disclaimer: I actually like your list, and I think this would have a rather good chance of winning in this scenario, so if you feel like, have a shot and find out yourself what is working and what is not for you!
    Happy hunting!
     
  5. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Well Swiss Guard can get beacon and then handle it to datatracker (though it's quite order expensive).
     
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  6. Lameth

    Lameth New Member

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    Thans you all for the comments.

    I was expecting to use the Orc feueurbach as an ARO.. Ok an expensive one but i thought it can do the job.

    Thanks for the advice, I considered this option at first but then I realized that I could have 2 Orcs instead. The aquila is great if I have to face lists with smoke of camo.. It will not be the case for the moment.

    I was thinking using the swiss guard assault hacker for that. It is not as efficient as a KHD but I have the impression that it is still able to contain ennemy hackers.

    I tried to put an orc haris, but it just did not fit with all what i wanted to put in the list.

    My first idea was to capture the beacon with the bulleteer (fast machine) and bring it back to my datatracker in my deployment zone that will be one of the two orcs.
     
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  7. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Unlinked single ORC is not a good ARO piece. Without link team or visual modifiers he is quite a literal "sitting duck".

    He might be good ARO piece, but starting at turn 2/3 not on first one ;)
     
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    Cartographer Well-Known Member

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    I'd look to replace the Orc BSG with the Black Friar or Locust, their area denial with Drop Bears and their ability to either ignore enemy MSV (BF) or easily stack a -9/-12 (Locust) make them preferable for both the offensive and defensive play necessary in Capture and Protect.
    The unsupported AHD on the Swiss is just bad, it makes him a liability without giving him enough punch to defend himself from enemy hackers. I'd swap him for a Deva AHD, the addition of Lightning makes the Deva a much better hacker, and WIP 15 is amazing. Additionally, he brings the close range defensive firepower of a BSG + nanopulser on a NWI platform.
    (You could also go for a Hexa KHD and use the Bulleteer to go hunt enemy hackers, then upgrade the Fusilier HMG to a MSR or ML)

    If you make those changes, you'll have points to spare for 3-4 additional orders. I'd suggest a Trauma Doc, a Machinist and an Auxilia Forward Observer. These will help shore up your defence (the AuxBot HFT is deadly) as well as provide you with a (better) means of healing your troopers when they go down or fixing immobilised.
     
  9. Lameth

    Lameth New Member

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    Thanks again all.
    I have a bit of more thoughts on your remarks.
    I endend with this new list.

    [​IMG] Second NCA [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] SWISS GUARD HMG / Pistol, AP CCW. (2 | 68)
    [​IMG] SWISS GUARD Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) MULTI Rifle / Pistol, AP CCW. (0.5 | 70)
    [​IMG] ORC Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 35)
    [​IMG] FUSILIER Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] FUSILIER Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] FUSILIER Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 18)
    [​IMG] BULLETEER Heavy Shotgun / Electric Pulse. (0 | 17)
    [​IMG] BULLETEER Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1 | 23)
    [​IMG] HEXA MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 32)
    [​IMG] MACHINIST Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    5.5 SWC | 300 Points
     
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  10. AdmiralJCJF

    AdmiralJCJF Heart of the Hyperpower

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    Are you 100% committed to a single order group?

    Because I feel like you could make a similar list, but far stronger, with a few minor changes and expanding out into two order groups.

    So, something like this:

    Neoterran Capitaline Army
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    SWISS GUARD HMG / Pistol, AP CCW. (2 | 68)
    SWISS GUARD Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) MULTI Rifle / Pistol, AP CCW. (0.5 | 70)
    FUSILIER Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    FUSILIER Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 18)
    FUSILIER (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    FUSILIER Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 15)
    TRAUMA-DOC Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    PALBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    MACHINIST Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    PALBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    BULLETEER Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1 | 23)
    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]2 [​IMG]2
    AUXILIA (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle + AUXBOT_1 / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    [​IMG] AUXBOT_1 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4)
    AUXILIA (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle + AUXBOT_1 / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    [​IMG] AUXBOT_1 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4)
    TECH-BEE (Remote Assistant Level 1, Specialist Operative) Flash Pulse / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    WARCOR (Aerocam) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)
    5.5 SWC | 299 Points
    Open in Infinity Army
     
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  11. atomicfryingpan

    atomicfryingpan Well-Known Member

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    NCA is a powerhouse and has access to most of our best shooters. As you've shown you can make a 10 order list with some elite dudes who will blow through chaff. That being said I think neoterra really opens up and reaches its potential with 2 combat groups and 14-16 orders.
     
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